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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    if job if a DPS steals lets say 4+ mobs from tank and tank only holds a weaker mob who should healer try to heal?

    from many times I have seen in the past is if DPS steals tank agro it should heal its self yet a few times healer steals tank agro what do healers say then?

    tank please tank or no worry's I can self heal?
    It really does depend, healers have varing ideas to how they behave. Some tanks and healers adopt the you pull it you tank it route, some just heal regardless.

    Before you blame the tank there are things to consider

    Tank
    Is the tank in his/her tank stance? Is the tank using aoe enmity control? are they undergeared compared to the dps? Are they marking targets and dps are following?

    Dps
    Do they give enough time for the tank to establish a lead in hate Ie shield lob } flash before going all hammer and tongs? Are they severly overgearing the tank? Are they allowing the tank to at least begin aoe enmity before hitting their aoe rotations? Are they switching targets if they are building hate too rapidly on current target?

    Healer
    Are you spamming high enmity spells like medica? Are you relentlessly spamming cure II on a tank that's lost 100 hp? Are you using regen pre pull or before the tank has chance to flash?


    If however you see a tank focusing one mob in a 5 plus pull as you said I would proritise the dps over tank as they clearly don't know what they are doing.

    In example 2 yes if you doing everything right and still have mobs whacking on you the tank is at fault.
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 12-26-2015 at 08:36 PM.

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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    My confession:

    While a lot of people praise my healing skills at Lv58, deep down I don't think I deserve it because I cannot multitask being a healer and dps. Outside of the Swiftcast+Holy, I refuse to do any other damage because after my second Stone III, the tanks has less than half his HP. This is with Stoneskin, Protect, and a Divine Sealed Regen and Medica II, as well as Asylum.
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    My confession:

    While a lot of people praise my healing skills at Lv58, deep down I don't think I deserve it because I cannot multitask being a healer and dps. Outside of the Swiftcast+Holy, I refuse to do any other damage because after my second Stone III, the tanks has less than half his HP. This is with Stoneskin, Protect, and a Divine Sealed Regen and Medica II, as well as Asylum.
    You'll probably get more out of a Swiftcast Aero III, then a Holy for the stun if you're that worried the tank is going to wilt like wet paper.

    Maybe try that.
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    Shao Ron
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    Bard Lv 60
    Haven't healed for a while and forgot that DPS take damage too if the tank doesn't hold hate. Only realized when I heard the sound of someone returning to the start... was confused for a second before I understood what had happened.
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    Last edited by Uhm; 12-28-2015 at 12:48 AM.

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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Hullbreaker isle is my antithesis it seems as all my mess ups occur here.

    Pld pulls an unusually large group of mobs(i dont think he expected that many..) So im spam healing.
    The critical mistake i made was casting medica 2. Hard to explain but rate of incoming damage didnt allow room for long casting spells(sc was down). So he died pretty swiftly. I should have kept with cure 2 we were ok til i got fancy. Never again.
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    KorraBelle's Avatar
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    Korra Sato
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Stood around on my AST in Void Ark fixing my near broken gear on Chuchulainn. The other rather undergeared healer was BARELY able to keep about 3/4th of the party alive. No shame.

    Also I've run Nisi into a bad group on A4.
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I let my tank die to Final Sting on the big pull at the second Arboretum honeycomb today because they seemed to be doing well with their defensive cooldowns and I had Asylum+Regen+Medica 2 on them, so I instead focused on getting the wall down rather than playing cautiously and keeping Cure II ready.

    This has happened more often than I'd like to admit.
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    Leopold Sidney
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    WHM confession: To this day I'm constantly forgetting that I have Eye for an Eye on my hotbar. I blame the fact that I had WHM through endgame for a long time before I got ACN up to the level where I had it, so I'm still used to it not being there.
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    Mimifu Mifu
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateCat View Post
    WHM confession: To this day I'm constantly forgetting that I have Eye for an Eye on my hotbar. I blame the fact that I had WHM through endgame for a long time before I got ACN up to the level where I had it, so I'm still used to it not being there.
    To this day, I don't have Eye for an eye yet.... But it's not my problem anymore, I'm playing Astro :P
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateCat View Post
    WHM confession: To this day I'm constantly forgetting that I have Eye for an Eye on my hotbar. I blame the fact that I had WHM through endgame for a long time before I got ACN up to the level where I had it, so I'm still used to it not being there.
    I've been doing that with benediction. After using it several times in my last group, I've come make its use a necessary habit.
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