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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The reason that different colored equipment now offer different stats was because when making the item-related adjustments, the team changed it so you can easily differentiate stat differences by the color of the gear.

    I understand that some people want dyes to just be an aesthetic-only option, and I'll be sure to pass that along to the dev. team along with other feedback.
    It was a stupid thing to do as well as lazy! All purpose dye should be just that, every color should be applicable to all items. We have gone from an item having 3-5 color variants to having most of the new items having 2 and 3 at the very most.

    As a weaver I loved that I could make LS members gear and ask them their color preference. Now they simply get what they get. And Wtf is the point of associating a stat to a dye color when there is the materia system???? It pigeon-holes people into using the colored gear possessing the supposed "best" stat for a job and not their preferred color, it will be like FFXI all over again where level 75 players of a specific job all look like clones wearing all the exact same gear in each slot.

    When I read about the introduction of All Pupose dyes I thought we would be getting greater choice in color variation of gear, not drastically more limited choice!!!!! Hell I though we'd be able to dye NM and Raid drops, not that those are even desirable anymore now that materia system has obsoleted people's hard won items just 3 months after those items introduction.
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    Last edited by Rowe; 10-11-2011 at 09:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowe View Post
    It was a stupid thing to do as well as lazy! All purpose dye should be just that, every color should be applicable to all items. We have gone from an item having 3-5 color variants to having most of the new items having 2 and 3 at the very most.
    Explain how its lazy, you obviously don't realise the amount of extra work they had to put in to make different colours equal different stats, level restrictions and class restrictions.

    I really can't see them reversing this choice, if Yoshi wanted our opinion prior to making the change he would have made a poll and asked us.

    Lets not forget they aren't finished with the recipe changes so for all we know there could a lot more colour options planned for each type of armour.

    For example most gear types have 3 colour choices (including the undyed) 4 at best and there are up to 9 dyes they can use, which would/could give a maximum of 10 colour choices per armour type.

    Also, where is the pink all-purpose dye?
    Pink and red are the same dye.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 10-11-2011 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Explain how its lazy, you obviously don't realise the amount of extra work they had to put in to make different colours equal different stats, level restrictions and class restrictions.

    I really can't see them reversing this choice, if Yoshi wanted our opinion prior to making the change he would have made a poll and asked us.

    Lets not forget they aren't finished with the recipe changes so for all we know there could a lot more colour options planned for each type of armour.

    For example most gear types have 3 colour choices (including the undyed) 4 at best and there are up to 9 dyes they can use, which would/could give a maximum of 10 colour choices per armour type.



    Pink and red are the same dye.
    Jinko you don't have a single like on any of your posts in this thread. Go away, you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowe View Post
    Jinko you don't have a single like on any of your posts in this thread. Go away, you are wrong.
    Oh really was I !!, seem Yoshi just said he wants 24 to 32 colours in the game by the time he is finished reworking the dye system. (told you the recipe changes were far from over)

    In other news, I couldn't give two F***s if people like my posts lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Oh really was I !!, seem Yoshi just said he wants 24 to 32 colours in the game by the time he is finished reworking the dye system. (told you the recipe changes were far from over)

    In other news, I couldn't give two #£%$@ if people like my posts lol.
    Good for you, but it doesn't change the fact you contributed nothing to this discussion but spite and defeatism. If you'd had what I gathered was your way and nobody had bothered speaking up on the subject, we'd never have gotten the explanation out of Yoshida-san that you're trying to use as justification.

    Anyway I'm going to add you to my ignore list. I've seen nothing much worth reading in your posts so far, and being as you just seem generally distasteful anyhow.. meh. The foul language (asterisks or no) only makes me feel all the more comfortable doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Oh really was I !!, seem Yoshi just said he wants 24 to 32 colours in the game by the time he is finished reworking the dye system. (told you the recipe changes were far from over)

    In other news, I couldn't give two F***s if people like my posts lol.
    You aren't Yoshi so know one gives a F*** about your personal speculation on future feature implementation by the Dev team. People in this thread were reacting to the current state of the dye-system and rightly so. We got an official response from Yoshi and there was language in it making apology and admitting mistakes were made in releasing it as it exists. So all the people who have expressed their displeasure have been justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowe View Post
    You aren't Yoshi so know one gives a F*** about your personal speculation on future feature implementation by the Dev team. People in this thread were reacting to the current state of the dye-system and rightly so. We got an official response from Yoshi and there was language in it making apology and admitting mistakes were made in releasing it as it exists. So all the people who have expressed their displeasure have been justified.
    Why are you reaching to make a point ?

    1. I never implied I was Yoshi-p
    2. I never implied that I knew what was guna happen.

    I just simply had the common sense to wait and see what the dev team had planned.

    Of course he appoligised because the majority of the people who play this game are whiny little babies and he has to passify you all so more players don't rage quit.

    More importantly this thread did not get a response the Japanese one did, so don't fool yourself being the little white knight that it was your posts and responses that got the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Why are you reaching to make a point ?

    1. I never implied I was Yoshi-p
    2. I never implied that I knew what was guna happen.

    I just simply had the common sense to wait and see what the dev team had planned.

    Of course he appoligised because the majority of the people who play this game are whiny little babies and he has to passify you all so more players don't rage quit.

    More importantly this thread did not get a response the Japanese one did, so don't fool yourself being the little white knight that it was your posts and responses that got the reply.
    Nope it wasn't my posts but this thread was linked in the JP thread so the thread as a whole did contribute to getting a response from Yoshi. The forums are for discussion and feedback. People have the right to voice their concerns when a patch is released and aspects of it dissatisfy the player-base.
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