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    Whether my gear is red or blue should have no bearing on how well I can fulfill my role.
    As far as I'm aware, wearing AF or not has no bearing on how well you can fulfill your role either. Since that isn't even the point of class-specific gear in the first place. And what you just said was something people weren't fine with. Sharing the same gear aesthetics with other classes rubbed people the wrong way.

    It should not define me as a tank, it should define me as someone who likes the color red.
    Like it or not, color defines classes as much as gear model does. Paladin has white armor. Red mage has red armor. Black mage has black armor. Dragoon has purple-ish armor. The color most certainly is a significant factor of defining- and distinguishing a class or a job.

    Now we're supposed to just excuse it as magical and let the lore be destroyed?
    Now we are bonding with our pants and then, we magically turn the pants into a colored gem. Let's not start going too deeply into that stuff or we just might blow their cover. Although I like your reasoning as well

    the stat bonus comes from the addition of an item to the piece of equipment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Like it or not, color defines classes as much as gear model does. Paladin has white armor. Red mage has red armor. Black mage has black armor. Dragoon has purple-ish armor. The color most certainly is a significant factor of defining- and distinguishing a class or a job.
    There is the problem. You can argue that yes, color should define the class, therefore adding the proper stats to make it a tank, DD, Healer or that it shouldn't. Perhaps have a poll to see where most people stand on this issue. But from reading this thread people are not liking that restriction, regardless of what they asked for in the past (must be human nature to ask for something and not like it).

    I'll bring up the system used in Aion as a suggestion for the direction of this issue (I know this game isn't Aion and im not trying to makit it)

    In that game you can change the actual model of the gear you are wearing to look like that of something you want to wear. For example, if you are wearing all tanking gear with tanking stats, but you like the way a piece of gear looks that has no stats, or stats for different roles, you take both pieces to an NPC and have him change the gear you will use into the piece you like. Doing this destroys the model gear. You keep all of your stats just on a different model. When you dye your gear it only changes the color or it.

    I know that there are people who like having the color of the gear define the class but whether that is the majority or not I do not know. Ultimately I don't why they can't simply rework the system by allowing color to be just that, color. As far as stat customizing enchantments or runes can be added.

    It's a fantasy game dude. Those are magical dyes. But if they made them look like runes then suddenly, it all makes sense! Even though runes are just black paint on a piece of gear. That shouldn't make it functionally better! But it's a fantasy game, so it does.
    Yes I know this is a fantasy game, but in trying to accommodate to both players that want color freedom and those that want more stat customization, enchantments or runes are the best option as neither of the two are really visible, and from what I have read that is the real argument here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    As far as I'm aware, wearing AF or not has no bearing on how well you can fulfill your role either. Since that isn't even the point of class-specific gear in the first place. And what you just said was something people weren't fine with. Sharing the same gear aesthetics with other classes rubbed people the wrong way.



    Like it or not, color defines classes as much as gear model does. Paladin has white armor. Red mage has red armor. Black mage has black armor. Dragoon has purple-ish armor. The color most certainly is a significant factor of defining- and distinguishing a class or a job.



    Now we are bonding with our pants and then, we magically turn the pants into a colored gem. Let's not start going too deeply into that stuff or we just might blow their cover. Although I like your reasoning as well
    stop trolling and white-knighting in the same post please.....

    Trying to justify stats changing based on the color of dyes because we don't have AF yet to distinguish a class is such a fail-boat argument it's not even funny...

    The only plausible explanation is that this is a simple oversight on the part of the dev team. Anything else would be showing us all how indisputably amateur this DEV team truly is.
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    Last edited by unnameduser; 10-09-2011 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unnameduser View Post
    stop trolling please.
    For not being a troll yourself, you sure have radical opinions with no arguments to back them up with yet still try to make them sound like facts. While accusing someone you disagree with of being a troll.
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