Colored gear with specific classes.

[Jynx]

That would make me look the same as possibly 4 other classes. And that is much worse than looking the same as every other player of my class.

Statistically having 4 colours for 4 classes is the same ammount of people wearing a particular colour as 1 colour per 1 class. Aside the fact that a colour is forced upon you wether you like it or not.

Although obviously popular colours will arise, but is that as much an issue? Personally changing stats with colours is rediculous it makes no sense other than to help typecast people just by looking at them and I don't think we have many issues with that with us seeing our weapons and all....

[Betelgeuzah]

Statistically having 4 colours for 4 classes is the same ammount of people wearing a particular colour as 1 colour per 1 class. Aside the fact that a colour is forced upon you wether you like it or not.

So instead of having class uniqueness, we would have color uniqueness.

Maybe we should give up the class names altogether and just start calling them by Colors.

You keep bringing up class vs class uniqueness when that isn't even what we're talking about right now.

And when that comparison is exactly what this whole change is about, that sure is a problem.

"No, lets not talk about the actual meaning behind the change, otherwise I might actually understand the reasoning behind it. Let me make up something irrelevant instead."

as it's far too frustrating.

"The truth will set you free. But first, its going to piss you off."

[Oscillate_Wildly]

So instead of having class uniqueness, we would have color uniqueness.

Maybe we should give up the class names altogether and just start calling them by Colors.

That's what you just said you wanted. You want to be able to distinguish one class by the next by havine one wear one colour, and the second class to be wearing the other.

[Betelgeuzah]

You want to be able to distinguish one class by the next by havine one wear one colour, and the second class to be wearing the other.

Exactly. That way when I see a guy wearing red haubergeon I don't think "Oh, that guy is playing Red" but "Oh, that guy is playing GLA."

[Kikosho]

Exactly. That way when I see a guy wearing red haubergeon I don't think "Oh, that guy is playing Red" but "Oh, that guy is playing GLA."

I figured the weapon the guy would be carrying would give it away.. So you basically want classes to have "artifact armor" which color is the deciding point as of now. As it is right now though, there's gonna be some rainbow colored individuals if they want to min-max certain stats.

[Jynx]

Exactly. That way when I see a guy wearing red haubergeon I don't think "Oh, that guy is playing Red" but "Oh, that guy is playing GLA."

Your trying WAY too hard to prove a point and looking like a fool for doing it.

You say you need colour to differentiate classes? I mean really? Is that your only reason that you can possibly concieve to keep colour a class unique thing? Hell as it stands it doesn't even work that way multiple meele can wear "Red" gear. hell some of the newer stuff a Blacksmith can even wear.

Can I say "Oh that guy is playing red" in this situation? Becuse a Marauder wearing "Red" is still quite different from a Gladiator wearing "red"

Your grasping at straws without seemingly understanding the gripe itself. Making a green shirt DoL only doesn't mean you can tell what that person is at glance thats what the /check function is for, if your so inept that you can't tell what someone is by looking at them currently "With all the multicoloured items we have" there is something wrong with you.

Restricting gear by colour serves 0 purpose other than to shoehorn people into wearing gear they might not find appealing especially when someone beside them is wearing the exact same suit in the colour they want, they just happened to roll the wrong job to wear that colour.

I can see where people are going with the armour itself being class restricted but not the colours....come on man. Give us a real reason that the colours need to be restricted and maybe people would listen but as it stands there is no rhym nor reason behind it.

Your explination of "That guy is playing red today!" falls flat because that still doesn't explain their class anymore than looking at their backside for a weapon does currently.

*edit*

Here is a perfect example.

Hey look that guy is wearing a Felt Bliaut (Brown) So he must be a mage....of some sort. Oh hell I see he is wearing a Conjurer weapon he must be a conjurer!

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Statistically having 4 colours for 4 classes is the same ammount of people wearing a particular colour as 1 colour per 1 class. Aside the fact that a colour is forced upon you wether you like it or not.

Although obviously popular colours will arise, but is that as much an issue? Personally changing stats with colours is rediculous it makes no sense other than to help typecast people just by looking at them and I don't think we have many issues with that with us seeing our weapons and all....

Yeeesss. Thank you~. That's much more frank than how I could have put it.


What I would liken this 1 colour nonsense to are Scorpion harnesses. XI armours came in one colour, and it was a popular armour choice resulting in many people wearing it for the stats to look the same as another say, thief, standing next to him.

At least with the aesthetic-dye system technically you're wearing the same piece of armour but the combinations will always have far more variety than XI's. And now with the restrictions it's come to that all over again and in some cases like the Cobalt plate armour, it only comes in red and red is superior to undyed. But only if people use them that way. Personally I'll do my best but I'm not going max myself out based on this pre-determined 'role' people have in mind for a Conjurer.

Anyhow, Jobs are coming, and if you thought that there was no uniqueness in the past, there certainly isn't now. And while you are in the opinion of hating the idea of AF? I am not. Because I think you assume it'll have the best stats forever. I highly doubt it and people will likely mix and match it with different pieces of gear depending on what they want. I'm looking forward to my White Mage gear.

What is the difference, might I ask, of you wondering who is a healer and who is a damage dealer with mages, and then looking at a black mage and a white mage in Full Af? = ^= I mean one you clearly want, and the other you don't. Double standard?