I found that to be the exact issue with TSW at the high-end as well; there was effectively no party forming tools whatsoever and so it was up to people to form there own, and it was actively discouraged to do it in the forums. And then to do it in the game would take literal hours just to get 10 people together for one raid, and would likely fall apart at the first wipe; Meanwhile farm groups are chatting it up like it's everyday business with no issues apparent to them, because it doesn't affect how they play.

I'm fine with that being the case for DF because I can just requeue. I'm not fine with it in PF because it's a huge time tax. And at least there you could draw from the entire populace of the game instead of a small subset of a small subset.