Why keep DF off of new content?

[hagare]

Because you did it when the content is already old and got echo'ed ?
When things got put in duty finder, people already did it for like 6 months or more and required an obscene high ilv to enter(i123 for t13? lol) At that point, people can 7 man or even 6 man those fights.
Some people got carried by gear and/or jps and think they are good lol.

Of course I got carried
Never said I was good.

The point I was making is that it is very much possible to do hard content like coil in DF. Unlike what all the naysayers before were saying.

I'm just a filthy casual raider. No static, just PUGs if I can find the time or feel like it.
That's why I like practicing in DF, less hassle more pew pew.

I don't know if clearing them the moment they're out in DF can be called old though?
carried by obscene high gear? you mean the ilvl the raid was actually tuned for?

I'm so sorry I wasn't a progression raider. I think the only ones I cleared before echo was put in is T6,7,8, 10 and 11, and 12.
are you done?

PS: *At that point, people can 7 man or even 6 man those fights.* You seem to think that everyone is a hardcore progression world first chaser.
news flash: most people are like me, filthy filthy casual raider

I'm one of those people that like to use DF.

While I cringe at the fact that current end-game content (Alex Savage, as of now) is stroked out from DF, I still rejoice more.

Because, let's face it, even if there are few good people with incomplete party using DF to do stuffs, there are bigger chances that you'll likely meet the baddies.
Unless your data center is filled with pr0s (Which is unlikely).

Yes, currently, I am fine with Alex Savage not being a choice in DF.

of course you'll find baddies at first. you'l probably meet me there
when they allow *IF* they allow people to solo queue for a raid, people who haven't even bothered doing it will give it a try as well.
There will be lots of newbies trying their hands on it.
Still won't stop me from practicing my role in it though.

[RandomInternetguy]

mm

I think you are unaware that, when content is "current" they are very much unforgiving. 1 simple mistake = dead. 1 dead = wipe. Try to somehow get a group to do garuda ex or titan ex with minimum ilv. Then think about how contents (100 times harder maybe) like t9 or a3s a4s can be done in DF when they are "current" (Let's leave scob savage out, for god's sake)
A1s and A2s, yes you have a chance, however very slim.Because most able raider prefer to do it with their static because of weekly lockout.Your chance getting a 8 people who can clear this is less than 1% (guess number, dont take this seriously) Then there's another problem, it's different strats. For example 4 people can only do it with A strat, the rest with B. Then you process to spend 90 minutes to have everyone on the same pace. And bam, time out.

Tl;dr: just wait for 3.2 if you want to df.

[hagare]

*"current" they are very much unforgiving*
and your point is?
and PF is different than DF in this matter how?
does using PF guarantee awesome runs every time?
they won't affect those not using it. Statics won't be using it.
only other people who wants to use it will benefit from it.

*Because most able raider prefer to do it with their static*
which is the reason some people prefer DF. New blood! New people to practice with! People willing to do it! People with no static! Casual raiders!

*Because most able raider prefer to do it with their static*
so even if it's in DF, they won't be affected!

*different strats*
over time there WILL be a standardized strat.

*Then you process to spend 90 minutes to have everyone on the same pace. And bam, time out.*
It's called a practice run
PS: you can also find the so called practice run in PF, but in much lesser number.
and the role you want to play might not be open.

though I don't really mind if they put it in DF or not xD

[Ashkendor]

*different strats*
over time there WILL be a standardized strat.

Not entirely true. Even now, T9 has different divebomb strategies, A1 has different ways to handle the split, and A4 has different strategies with who picks up the orbs. If people aren't on the same page, it creates problems.

Honestly, if Savage was in the Duty Finder most of what you'd find would be trolls, lazy people looking for free carries or bored people looking to waste some time and maybe see past the first phase. I'd wager 99% of DF groups would never get past Faust to even see the actual boss. The DPS check is real. You wouldn't find your progression raiders in there helping out because they're in statics. Besides which, even if you did somehow end up with that miracle 7/8 group that cleared it for you, all you'd get out of it is the page. No chests, just 1/4 of an accessory.

If it was in DF, all we'd hear is bitching. "Why do my parties always wipe on Faust??" "This is too hard, nerf pls!" "OMG why is the item level requirement so high??" Ultimately, the reason it's not on DF is because SE doesn't want it there. Whether or not they put it there in the future remains to be seen, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.

[Arashmin]

A1s and A2s, yes you have a chance, however very slim.Because most able raider prefer to do it with their static because of weekly lockout.Your chance getting a 8 people who can clear this is less than 1% (guess number, dont take this seriously) Then there's another problem, it's different strats. For example 4 people can only do it with A strat, the rest with B. Then you process to spend 90 minutes to have everyone on the same pace. And bam, time out.

You're trying to make these sound like bad things, but I see them as opportunities and challenges to overcome. Considering I'm paying for a sub I'd much rather be throwing myself against a wall than just burning my sub biding for whatever is next.