Why keep DF off of new content?

[Evangela]

because there's no hope for DF group to even get pass phase 1 of any of those content.

[Arashmin]

@Evangela: Not much of a reason though. I'd rather do things in vain than do nothing at all. Plus, it means you can learn up and experience it, so even if you don't clear at least you're taking in something.

[JohnMccain]

@Evangela: Not much of a reason though. I'd rather do things in vain than do nothing at all. Plus, it means you can learn up and experience it, so even if you don't clear at least you're taking in something.

There is not much you can learn and experience with Faust.

[Ibi]

@Evangela: Not much of a reason though. I'd rather do things in vain than do nothing at all. Plus, it means you can learn up and experience it, so even if you don't clear at least you're taking in something.

That's the reason though. You may not like it or agree with it, but that's why they've done it.

I do believe they phrased it slightly differently. Something to the effect of not wanting people to accidentally find themselves in way over their heads or completely unprepared, and getting overly frustrated because they didn't realize what they'd be up against.

Where do people get the idea that any DF party is made up of the worst players in the game, while a PF group of randoms (same as DF) is any better?

The most significant difference is that you can guarantee a composition in PF.

How well do you think a DF group with 2 pld tanks or with no brd/mch would fare in Alexander Savage?

[Chiramu]

because there's no hope for DF group to even get pass phase 1 of any of those content.

DF "can" do Ramuh EX and Ramuh EX is the hardest primal in DF.

[Niwashi]

because there's no hope for DF group to even get pass phase 1 of any of those content.

A DF group has as much chance as a PF group does, and the later is allowed. Both are random pick-up-groups, it's just that one is limited to forming from your own server and the other can bring in players from across multiple servers. A wider pool of players to join with just makes the groups form quicker, it doesn't make any difference to your chances of getting good or bad teammates.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

A DF group has as much chance as a PF group does, and the later is allowed. Both are random pick-up-groups, it's just that one is limited to forming from your own server and the other can bring in players from across multiple servers. A wider pool of players to join with just makes the groups form quicker, it doesn't make any difference to your chances of getting good or bad teammates.

Exactly! Well put I wish I had a pocket version of you when I was writing my essay post! Lol

[Evangela]

A DF group has as much chance as a PF group does, and the later is allowed. Both are random pick-up-groups, it's just that one is limited to forming from your own server and the other can bring in players from across multiple servers. A wider pool of players to join with just makes the groups form quicker, it doesn't make any difference to your chances of getting good or bad teammates.

at least most people have to prepare themselves before joining PF groups, unless they want to get booted and ruined their reputation on their home server.

[hagare]

at least most people have to prepare themselves before joining PF groups, unless they want to get booted and ruined their reputation on their home server.

You seem to think of everyone who uses DF as either a troll or a terrible player.

Feel free to use PF.
In fact, please stay as far away as possible from DF

[DoctorPepper]

because there's no hope for DF group to even get pass phase 1 of any of those content.

I really don't agree with this mindset, if people want to try the content then they should be able to. Even if they don't win they might learn something. Obviously DF will never be the go-to place to get your extreme/savage encounter wins but at least it gives people a chance to practice the fight.

I have a static though so really not a big deal to me, but I agree with the OP anyways.