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    RukiaFae's Avatar
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    Rukia Fae
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    Do you know Teal from Faerie? He is really good at getting parties together to help people clear content. If you don't I can invite you to the linkshell. Look me up Rukia Fae
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Where do people get the idea that any DF party is made up of the worst players in the game, while a PF group of randoms (same as DF) is any better? It took me forever to find a group that could get past Bismarck EX on PF, not because of DPS checks, but because people couldn't even stand in the middle when told to in the showers phase... Eventually did beat it with a good group, and went on to beat RavEX easily enough.

    But anyway, my point is awful players exist on both sides. EX primals should be on DF from the get go, it's really hard forming a party very early in the morning. As for Savage, why not? It's not going to hurt anyone, and almost every PF group I've seen says "First Jump EXP", so it's not like I can join any party to practice, and I'm definitely not the best leader, I get so shakey even as a DPS attempting new content, let alone leading the group.
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Where do people get the idea that any DF party is made up of the worst players in the game, while a PF group of randoms (same as DF) is any better? It took me forever to find a group that could get past Bismarck EX on PF, not because of DPS checks, but because people couldn't even stand in the middle when told to in the showers phase... Eventually did beat it with a good group, and went on to beat RavEX easily enough
    Because their data center is terrible maybe
    I clear stuff in DF all the time.
    I even got most of my coil clears from DF. Those Js be cray cray lols
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Where do people get the idea that any DF party is made up of the worst players in the game, while a PF group of randoms (same as DF) is any better?
    Step of Faith pre-nerf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Step of Faith pre-nerf
    Only did it once outside of my first time through DF I think, and it was fine. I'm getting the idea from the forums that NA servers are filled with both awful, and toxic players. Never had an issue on Tonberry DF, and the Japanese always seem to use happy emotions, so I'm assuming they're nice for the most part... unless they're like "You're awful, git gud! (*^▽^*)", and they play the game just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Step of Faith pre-nerf
    You mean the one I cleared in DF pre-nerf
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Since you're apparently okay with pugging, why don't you just make a pugging LS? Fulfills the same purpose but increases the probability of playing with the same people again (i.e. actually clearing). FYI I'm on your server so maybe the times you're looking for just aren't peek play times.

    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    Do you know Teal from Faerie? He is really good at getting parties together to help people clear content. If you don't I can invite you to the linkshell. Look me up Rukia Fae
    Oh yeah and this guy. Tealith he's pretty good. Put's up learning parties for content regularly.
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Hyperion
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    I see no reason to put savage in DF but the EX primals should be in. Nobody does Bismark in PF anymore. Especially practice. There are a lot of players that like to bang their head in DF until they feel comfortable with the fights mechanics before attempting to join a PF so they don't look terrible in front of others on their server.
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    Firepower Shinryu
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    I see no reason to put savage in DF but the EX primals should be in. Nobody does Bismark in PF anymore. Especially practice. There are a lot of players that like to bang their head in DF until they feel comfortable with the fights mechanics before attempting to join a PF so they don't look terrible in front of others on their server.
    This, I can't remember how many times I attempted Titan EX on duty finder back when it was new content, but I was happy to do so knowing I could get parties quickly and at anytime through Duty finder. In fact all the scenarios where I have learned through bashing my head against Duty finder I am far more capable in than the ones I get a few rushed attempts at in a learning party and then jump to a clear party and avoid the instance for good after that.

    In fact, I only just did BEX yesterday simply because I am currently not on my usual work/sleep pattern which leads me to going to bed before prime time on the server, if BEX and Ravana EX was on duty finder I could spend all day doing that instead of just not logging on and doing something else.
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    Last edited by Firepower; 08-31-2015 at 09:05 AM.

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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    If the players don't want to put any effort to even create a premade party then they don't deserve to challenge these content. you can't learn or practice anything with DF group that will be disbanded in 5 minutes. it a waste of server resources too.
    Wait u got that backwards.
    DF groups r ppl who actually want to learn vs. Ppl in PF parties that rage quit and cookie crumble the party after 1 wipe. As soon as 1 person leave the whole party collapses 8/10 times lol.
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