Why keep DF off of new content?

[hagare]

Want hard stuff just for fun, no gear.....Ya doubt it
Add Alexander savage on df with no gear drops and I bet hardly anyone will queued or get pass Faust.

the same can be said with PF.
How many Coil savage parties do you see everyday in PF?

[Sove92]

Want hard stuff just for fun, no gear.....Ya doubt it
Add Alexander savage on df with no gear drops and I bet hardly anyone will queued or get pass Faust.

I can see A1S and A2S being puggable later on in the expansion (3.4 at latest), they are early coil turn level fights with tighter dps checks, it's A3S where the real fun begins. I don't think A3S and A4S will see many, if any full DF clears in this expansion.

[CGMidlander]

I can see A1S and A2S being puggable later on in the expansion (3.4 at latest), they are early coil turn level fights with tighter dps checks, it's A3S where the real fun begins. I don't think A3S and A4S will see many, if any full DF clears in this expansion.

There's a lot of insta-wipe stuff that DF parties can and will trip over in A3S for sure, if the mechanics aren't nerfed like what they did with T6/7.

But, if SE follows what they did with SCoB Savage, there won't be any mechanic nerfs and no ability to enter without a premade party.

IMO nerfs shouldn't happen, since there is already an accessible version of Alex available. (Normal mode)

[hagare]

IMO nerfs shouldn't happen, since there is already an accessible version of Alex available. (Normal mode)

Agreed 10/10

[RandomInternetguy]

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[Windklinge]

so because people have akward work schedules the entire endgame should be tailored towards em? thats total bs of an argument. so a game should cater towards YOU alone? what about the others that pay the same sub? because all df would lead to is NERF THIS screams on forums and everywere. just look at steps of faith. people still fail hard at it. even tough it was nerfed down to oblivion.

also bis ex and rav ex are useless the second eso weapons were patched in sadly. bis ex was useles from the launch because yoschi screwed weapon ilvls up big time there. this is why nobody does em anymore. no reward = why bother ?

faust and learning? you cannot learn anything on him which you couldnt learn on a simple training dummy. either a dps pulls over 1100 dps on him or not. if not said dps wouldnt do that damage on a dummy either and needs to relearn thier class. but this wouldnt happen with df. instead people would go to forums and cry for a nerf on it.

this game is easy enough. leave atleast ex modes and current raids ALONE. df wouldnt help you clear it. forget it. it would just lead to content getting dumbed down and nerfed even more than currently.

[hagare]

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Adding DF is adding more tools, not reducing them.
It's not like PF suddenly vanishes.

Not once has anyone asked for nerfs here, only that content be added to DF.

The only ones who seems to be screaming NERFS are you people who rejects the idea without actually giving any valid counter points against it.
Except doomsaying apparently.

PS: love your optimism about the nerfs by the way

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You don't even have to use Faust for an example. Even easier content like Ultros and Typhoon have people fail them very often.

[Linkan]

I cant see why not.
If people want to try out savage with random people even though it means a probable failure, it is their choice.

"But they wont be able to beat it!!!" And what do you have to do with it? If you dont like, dont do it.
The only thing they should do is require a decent amount of iLvL (maybe ilvl190) for A1S, for example, and do a warning that Savage is designed for very coordinates groups.

There you go.

[hagare]

I cant see why not.
If people want to try out savage with random people even though it means a probable failure, it is their choice.

"But they wont be able to beat it!!!" And what do you have to do with it? If you dont like, dont do it.
The only thing they should do is require a decent amount of iLvL (maybe ilvl190) for A1S, for example, and do a warning that Savage is designed for very coordinates groups.

There you go.

exactly. thank you.