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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Maybe a re-evaluiation on accuracy in Savage Alexander [Casters need not read]

    I hope I'm not the only one that's annoyed by how they handled the accuracy caps on Alexander, specifically, the adds.

    Bosses tend to have a really high frontal accuracy requirement so a tank is usually the only one that meets it (and they remedied this by giving their tanking stance an accuracy boost). That's fine and all, but the adds on the same boss fight has the exact same accuracy cap. There are points in the fight where the dps has to get an add to fixate on them, so they're always attacking from the front. They typically don't have alot of hp either, so positional bonus isn't much of a deal.

    The problem though comes in when you miss your attacks...especially if you're a combo class (which is all of them except for bard and monk). During my progression in A1s, I'd die a little bit inside when I miss my ammo+ slug shot hits on alarum, or I miss the killing blow with heartbreaker. Then you have our DRG who misses their full thrust.

    And it's not just for this floor; Floor 2 has you fighting goblins who get stunned immediately on stun (and you can't really adjust yourself in some cases because of doll cleaves), Floor 3 has The Hands that you need to stack for, and if A4s still has those mini fausts, every dps needs to get their attention and bait it away from the group....which means frontal accuracy cap.

    The fights are stingy on dps check, so even your damage output on the adds becomes pretty important. Which leads me to say this; is there a point in even having frontal or rear accuracy cap for physical dps if the fights expect us to hit from the front and meet dps checks?
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
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    Yes they need to drop accuracy. All it does it make you not be able to use your gear and gate things even longer for no reason. Remove accuracy SE its so stupid.
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    I wouldn't mind it if adds had a different accuracy requirement from the boss. The fact that I need to be 20-30 points above the required ACC requirement for flank in order to hit the Alarum's from the front when you're forced to hit them from the front in A1S is obnoxious. That's a wasted stat in every other situation in A1S.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    I'm overloaded on acc atm, still over 700, so I can't say I've run into this problem, I think I have more than our tanks currently.
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I'm overloaded on acc atm, still over 700, so I can't say I've run into this problem, I think I have more than our tanks currently.
    My static's DRG is also super loaded on accuracy. I think it's a problem with DRG's itemization on their gear, they get tons for no good reason, similar to BLMs. Conversely, our NIN and myself as MCH have been careful to try and grab accuracy pieces first, as we have been missing, esp on the front facing mobs.
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    Shadow Menace
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    yes drg gear is super loaded with accuracy, Im having the same problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Conversely, our NIN and myself as MCH have been careful to try and grab accuracy pieces first, as we have been missing, esp on the front facing mobs.
    Our MNK has 730 accuracy in full Alex gear. We joke that he must be blind if he needs that much accuracy.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Just so you know, SMNs need the flank ACC cap for their pet and healers are being forced to DD with their abysmal ACC.
    Might be worth adding to the discussion :3

    edit: Clearly I missed that pet change, well there ya go *runs away*.
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    Last edited by Niqote; 08-30-2015 at 02:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    Just so you know, SMNs need the flank ACC cap for their pet and healers are being forced to DD with their abysmal ACC.
    Might be worth adding to the discussion :3
    I thought they changed that?
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    Just so you know, SMNs need the flank ACC cap for their pet and healers are being forced to DD with their abysmal ACC.
    Might be worth adding to the discussion :3



    Your move, book person. *puts feet on desk*

    And healer dps is only really needed if you're trying to meet dps checks when you're below the recommended Ilvl (IE, cutting edge, world first progression)
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 08-29-2015 at 03:03 AM.
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