Are AST+WHM Viable?

[Akyio]

sch + ast is viable whm + ast is viable. probably the question should be if ast + ast is viable.
since the buffs im pretty keen on using nocturnal with whm, and diurnal with sch.
i really think any combination lately is possible.

[Gallus]

Anything is viable really.

WHM + WHM = overly defensive, might lack a bit of mitigation, but viable.
SCH + SCH = overly aggressive, might lack a bit of heals, but viable.
AST + AST = can either duo diurnal or diurnal + nocturnal, both will work fine, duo nocturnal probably not. Viable.

WHM + AST = very strong combination, heals completely covered and DPS will be probably fine.
SCH + AST = Insane DPS capabilities and will most likely not lack heals at all.

[lordparanoia]

I just don't understand why people think that diurnalast+whm is viable because of double regens. If you haven't mitigation you cannot consider the couple viable because you would not be able to survive for example a3s.

[Yurimi]

My group does AST + WHM and the results are ok I do have to choose a stance based on needs (A1S Noct for mitigation A2S durial since no mitigation really needed just a lot of healing during the later waves and it helps my DPS with the spell speed bonus attached, not done A3S yet as we are currently on final wave of A2S though only been on it for a week).

I play the roll of DPS healer and we run a DRG SMN BLM BRD as our DPS so proper choice of card use is important to offset my dps shortcomings (balance on the SMN and BLM with a BV foes during A2S is <3) but I can generally keep around 300ish sustained dps on astro through A1S and slightly more with gravity spam in A2S without running my MP dry (though I generally have to manage my MP closely to make sure I can handle the healing during the 4x doll wave since no faerie healing). I am sure with more practice and some work I could probably get my DPS up a bit more but doubt with the MP management tools I have i could match a sch's DPS without running myself dry.

For A3S at least from what I have seen I would think the instant A.Bene from a noct would be quite nice for things like tether.

[koroko220]

Don't the regens from ast and whm cancel each other? I could swear that happened to me in an 8 man.

[koroko220]

Idk how to edit on phone I should have said overwrite

[Beyondgrave]

Don't the regens from ast and whm cancel each other? I could swear that happened to me in an 8 man.

No, their regen stacks. Sch and Ast shield cancel each other out though

[Saseal]

AST in noct + WHM is fine, in my opinion. I've DFed into Alexander with ASTs quite a bit of times (and oddly, only in Alex o_o) and having no problems - if anything, their shields always make me go "lol, I didn't even need that cure III in that group huddle. I probably didn't even really need to medica o_Oa ...Kinda wish I had Medica II'd earlier just to let the regen fix that teeny damage bit of HP by itself...".

That is, if they don't sit in Cleric and ignore all healing duty, the entire time, to leave me to solo heal without telling me their plan to be purely DPS, first. >__>; Rude u_u