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    Revelations from Koji & Soken's Wild Ride

    PANEL OVAAAR - Live updates finished.

    This is just the lore stuff - there's a full summary here and you can still watch it on Twitch.

    Answers
    - From Hydaelyn's point of view
    - The wandering races are lamenting that life is very difficult
    - Hydaelyn is trying to explain that only through suffering and experience do you know who you truly are.

    Dragonsong
    - From Hydaelyn's point of view
    - Mostly about the circumstances of the Dragonsong War
    - Hydaelyn, by contrast, doesn't understand why her children are behaving this way.

    Ravana
    - Insectoid, very raw, real, and earthy.
    - Many of his moves are like dances, and he is accompanied by butterflies - hence the use of the waltz.
    - The lyrics also exist in Dragonspeak and Gnathic. (Will add to the Lyrics thread later.)

    Alexander 1-3
    - 72323 is meaningless (for now...)

    Alexander 4
    - Goblins are better at Eorzean (not-gobbie-speak) in ARR to reduce lore load (maybe because they read up on linguistics in Sharlayan)

    In General
    - They clearly read a lot of the forum discussions (and make fun of them)
    - The Twitch stream died during a performance of METAL, so they had to start over.

    Soken
    It's all your fault!
    Koji Fox
    MY fault!? This is Reddit all over again!
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-30-2015 at 06:17 AM.
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    Thanks for the Live updates, Moose! I was watching the livestream, but it actually cut out for about half of the section on Alexander. Time to update the lyrics thread with a few things...

    Edit: I liked how both themes for Alexander were originally Bismark's and Ravana's themes, but got changed at the last minute, haha! It's pretty crazy that they were able to change them so fast, too. But damn did they do a good job!
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    Answers about Answers, never thought I'd live to see the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Alexander 1-3
    - 72323 is meaningless.
    I don't even know what that refers to. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I don't even know what that refers to. >_>
    I think it's in one of the lines in the song, but I have to check again. We haven't done very well transcribing that one entirely.
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    Localization lead for ff15 sang lyrics for Alexander? That's pretty neat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Answers
    - From Hydaelyn's point of view
    - The wandering races are lamenting that life is very difficult
    - Hydaelyn is trying to explain that only through suffering and experience do you know who you truly are.
    So how does that relate to Bahamut....or the cycle of Calamities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    So how does that relate to Bahamut....or the cycle of Calamities?
    cycle, what comes after:

    "To all of my children to whom Death hath passed his judgement
    The soul yearns for honor, and the flesh the hereafter "

    cycle wise, this is self explanatory, thou it indirectly refers to bahamuth in the ''sins of past''

    "Now open your eyes while our plight is repeated
    Still deaf to our cries, lost in hope we lie defeated
    Our souls have been torn, and our bodies forsaken
    Bearing sins of the past, for our future is taken"



    "Thy Life is a riddle, to bear rapture and sorrow
    To listen, to suffer, to entrust unto tomorrow (cycle)
    In one fleeting moment, from the Land doth life flow (cycle)
    Yet in one fleeting moment, for anew it doth grow (cycle)
    In the same fleeting moment thou must live, die and know" (cycle)

    i find it easy to find the cycle of calamities and of life, since its directly related. About bahamuth there is nothing we can say its exactly him, not even references to fire or so. All i can see is the reference of the sins of the past. Since bahamuth, well... allag.... meracydia.... Tiamat....
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    From the deepest pit of the seven hells, to the very pinnacle of the heavens, the world shall tremble! Unleash

    Ultima!

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    72323? Where the heck is that in the song at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    So how does that relate to Bahamut....or the cycle of Calamities?
    The song was written under Tanaka-san before V1's release, and Yoshida-san decided on Bahamut as vehicle for the drastic changes to the world in V2. Bahamut is not invoked in Answers at all, though the core theme of the song can be applied to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I don't even know what that refers to. >_>
    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
    72323? Where the heck is that in the song at all?
    Alright, alright, I went back for it, already, jeez.

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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-31-2015 at 01:11 AM.
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