
Considering Crafting has absolutely no use right now, I hope the new relics will require crafted items, but I don't want it to have anything to do with red scrips.


Considering it had taken me over 3 months to get all the damn atma at the time i think the book portion was slightly better, even if i had to wait 4-6 hrs for a darn fate to pop.
Dungeon drops was perhaps on par though, rng was stupid. And crafting... what the heck
Relic could come in 4.0 for all i care, my sanity needs the break, lol


Ffxiv won't last nearly as long if doesn't take some ideas from ffxi.
Coil weapons got outdated but at least you could grind it till you won. Then had to a wait a week to keep farming weapons.
And to the other who said I would complain about if armor didn't have to be changed for a year or longer. No I wouldn't.
Why spend hours slaving and practicing with a static for a coil weapon? They got outdated every 6 months. Why bother getting a relic? They are obsolete now? Why bother getting a tome weapon? They are obsolete in months. Why get ANYTHING in a game that ups the item level cap every 6 mo?
Stop being dense. If you really believed working for an item that becomes obsolete is a waste of time you wouldn't be playing this game. You get it because it's useful when you make it, or glamour, or title, or whatever satisfaction you get out if it. But don't sit here and pretend relics are the only 'waste of time'. This entire game is a rotating door of obsolescence and yet here we all are working for gear every day that will become obsolete. Go rain on someone else's parade. People make relics and like it. Get over it.

This one gets it.Why spend hours slaving and practicing with a static for a coil weapon? They got outdated every 6 months. Why bother getting a relic? They are obsolete now? Why bother getting a tome weapon? They are obsolete in months. Why get ANYTHING in a game that ups the item level cap every 6 mo?
Stop being dense. If you really believed working for an item that becomes obsolete is a waste of time you wouldn't be playing this game. You get it because it's useful when you make it, or glamour, or title, or whatever satisfaction you get out if it. But don't sit here and pretend relics are the only 'waste of time'. This entire game is a rotating door of obsolescence and yet here we all are working for gear every day that will become obsolete. Go rain on someone else's parade. People make relics and like it. Get over it.
You're right. Vertical progression is a huge problem with XIV.Why spend hours slaving and practicing with a static for a coil weapon? They got outdated every 6 months. Why bother getting a relic? They are obsolete now? Why bother getting a tome weapon? They are obsolete in months. Why get ANYTHING in a game that ups the item level cap every 6 mo?.

pfff its only a matter of time before ESO caps are removed and everyone starts running around with ilv 200 gear.


Computer games are by definition a means of wasting your time in return for entertainment.
If you are entertained by farming a relic weapon, go for it. If you are not entertained, do something else.
Is is really that simple.
You know they will lol. SE doesn't want ppl to get their relic in 1 day so they ofc will make some stupid step 1 grind that woul either be super easy or a mind numbing grind that either requires crafted stuff or rng drops.
They'll be like ohh 2 star needs recipes so we'll make the relic require 2 star things so we can stimulate the economy. Lol
Then the casuals who the relic was made for will be like gg i quit
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