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    Normal/Savage Alexander complaint

    So I have been doing Alexander savage, and am on floor 3 now. One thing I am noticing among not only my own raid group, by my friend's as well is that players are burning out incredibly fast compared to previous raid tiers. I usually love progressing through the difficult fights and it is the primary reason I play MMOs, but even I am feeling the burnout. The main reason for me is that in order to gear up to progress in savage I had to farm normal. By the time I was doing the fight in savage, I had grown tired of the fight.

    My suggestion to prevent players from burning out this quickly is to reverse the order in which 24 mans and 8 man Normal mode is released. This way there is a lot more variety in the fights while you are gearing up for savage. Normal mode then becomes available later so that everyone can do all the story stuff.
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    Questing is like participating in an Old Spice Commercial - Talk to me, talk to him, talk to me, talk to him, Now Talk To Me...Sadly, you are not done, back to him, look there, its that mob I never liked, back to me, back to him...I'm in the Waking Sands.

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    Or they can release both normal and savage on same patch. . I too get burnt out on savage. . With no story it's difficult to be excited on progression.
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    I too, feel it has gotten stale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokuhn View Post
    Or they can release both normal and savage on same patch. . I too get burnt out on savage. . With no story it's difficult to be excited on progression.
    If they release both on the same patch, then you still need to farm normal for gear, which is what I feel is causing players to grow tired of the fights much quicker than usual.
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    Questing is like participating in an Old Spice Commercial - Talk to me, talk to him, talk to me, talk to him, Now Talk To Me...Sadly, you are not done, back to him, look there, its that mob I never liked, back to me, back to him...I'm in the Waking Sands.

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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    A lot of progression raiders think it is because of the lack of story. I agree with them. The story was part of the reward for clearing. I honestly think that having a normal mode was a bad idea.
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    So leave it for a bit then and idealy once you farmed normal you should be focusing on getting ESO more then Alex gear lthought by now you should have full Alex gear? My static broke our days up we used tonraid 4 days straight but only do not Mon the and when now to make it not feel like a chore.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Eh, you only burn yourself out cause you feel the need to finish it now and the way to do that is by gearing up with the best gear.

    See you are asking them to release content that is specifically designed to make it easier to gear compared to the first patch.

    Basically you have 3.0, And with that you can gear with 170-180, 190, 200-210, and the way of obtaining that is through law tomes, esoteric, and Alexander Normal/Savage.

    When 3.1 comes around they add a new layer of gearing up allowing you the opportunity to possibly obtain il200 gear through the raid on a weekly basis. So now rather than the limit of esoteric tomes and 1 i190 piece a week you would have your pick at esoteric, il190 alexander and the potential i200 raid 24 man gear.

    It's a design choice that allows content to gear cap quicker because now you have this new option to gear up, if they did it the otherway around then it would in a way defeat the purpose of the 24 man content because the 24-man is a casual experience that allows for an increased speed in gearing up.

    3.0=Hard mode in a sense, laws, esoteric, alexander Normal/Hard
    3.1=Bit easier adds more options for gear and the relic (3.1 or 3.15) and also primal weapon potentially

    So those who want to be world first have that hurdle to cross they have less options for gear and their skill has to count, on the otherhand once 3.1 comes around there are more options to surpass that gear check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    I honestly think that having a normal mode was a bad idea.
    Not really. Just the shedule was bad in my eyes. It would be better, if they release the normal mode when the next savage part gets released.

    Normal mode instead of echo and nerf, but the same time they have done coil with echon and nerf.
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokuhn View Post
    Or they can release both normal and savage on same patch. . I too get burnt out on savage. . With no story it's difficult to be excited on progression.
    Wasn't excited for normal's story.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Savage requires more gear progression then the coil series of raids this is why people are taking longer to clear it. It isn't harder from a mechanics standpoint but the gear check part of it is much higher.
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