Red Mage (Tank) Please!

[SendohJin]

Technically speaking, a PLD is more of a caster than a BRD or MCH. I mean this in the sense that PLD actually casts spells, as oppose to BRD or MCH which do not cast spells but have skills that take time.

you mean thematically speaking. cause technically they are now casted. and BRDs have more songs than PLD has spells and songs are definitely "casted". Flash the only one that PLDs use all the time is instant.

[Kaurie]

you mean thematically speaking. cause technically they are now casted. and BRDs have more songs than PLD has spells and songs are definitely "casted". Flash the only one that PLDs use all the time is instant.

No, I mean technically. Because technically they aren't casting. They simply have times associated with skills.

[ChazNatlo]

I am not saying that. I am saying there are many "types" of ranged casters and casters in general for DPS, Healing roles.

None however for Tanking roles.

I may have skipped a bunch of the thread, but how exactly do you tank at a range?

you mean thematically speaking.

The distinction here would be between Thematically and Mechanically. "Technically" is wildly over used, but all it means is that the person is speaking to fact. The Fact is, that as you say, Thematically the Paladin is more of a caster than the MCH.

[SendohJin]

I may have skipped a bunch of the thread, but how exactly do you tank at a range?

he was talking about casting tanking, not ranged tanking. though casting tanking would not even be a thing because if they can get interrupted they are done as a tank. a RDM "tank" would have lots of instant cast spells or some Surecast spells/traits.

which would kind of be cool? like Thunder Spikes, duration 30 seconds, while under this effect the caster cannot be interrupted.

[Welsper59]

he was talking about casting tanking, not ranged tanking. though casting tanking would not even be a thing because if they can get interrupted they are done as a tank. a RDM "tank" would have lots of instant cast spells or some Surecast spells/traits.

which would kind of be cool? like Thunder Spikes, duration 30 seconds, while under this effect the caster cannot be interrupted.

I remember tanking as a NIN/BLM in FFXI whenever I was allowed to or just for the fun of it. It oddly enough was very effective in many cases. Non-stop Ninjutsu spells going along the elemental wheel weaknesses to maximize threat and damage. The primary reason people didn't bother though was because it was expensive as **** to keep up with. Dedicated tanks were clearly a lot better though when you hit 90+ for threat holding, it's just that it was a change of pace to go NIN/BLM and gear up with INT and MAB stats.

[ChazNatlo]

he was talking about casting tanking, not ranged tanking. though casting tanking would not even be a thing because if they can get interrupted they are done as a tank. a RDM "tank" would have lots of instant cast spells or some Surecast spells/traits.

which would kind of be cool? like Thunder Spikes, duration 30 seconds, while under this effect the caster cannot be interrupted.

Ah, yes. My eyeballs grabbed onto "Ranged casting" and skipped over the "Casters in general."

It could work. Like you said, they'd likely need Black Mage as a Cross class ((Shame of you...)) and plenty of uninteruptible skills and skills that prevent one from being interrupted.

As for TOR's Ranged tanks. Basically they're Tanks that use gun. They still fight at melee range, unless the enemy is also righting at range.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Ah, yes. My eyeballs grabbed onto "Ranged casting" and skipped over the "Casters in general."

It could work. Like you said, they'd likely need Black Mage as a Cross class ((Shame of you...)) and plenty of uninteruptible skills and skills that prevent one from being interrupted.

As for TOR's Ranged tanks. Basically they're Tanks that use gun. They still fight at melee range, unless the enemy is also righting at range.

Actually I was making the tank stance give you either faster caster, or interrupt protection.