Red Mage (Tank) Please!

[Kaurie]

There's, what? 5? 10 posts? In this thread saying 'rdm should be caster because there's 2 casters and 3 tanks'. If the ratio isn't going to change anything then THAT doesn't matter either.

Not sure if this is what those posters meant, but this is how I interpreted it:

The ratio of 2 casters to 3 tanks meaning we should have another caster has absolutely nothing to do with queue times. It does have to do with providing options for people who prefer to play in that niche. For example, I love playing magic damage type jobs, and am fairly underwhelmed by both BLM and SMN. I play SMN now, and yes it's fun, but it's not exactly what I want. It would be awesome if there were more magic damage jobs to choose from.

[UnstablePersonality]

No, We were already disappointed (well i was anyway) that DRK, which should have been a DPS job was turned into a Tank. the LAST thing i want to see is a RDM tank..IF anything it needs to be a caster type.

If they are going to come up with a new tank job it needs to be something new or older game jobs, like Rune Fencer. (which would sound like a Rdm the way you are describing)

I rather Dark Knight of been DPS too..I don't like playing tank at all.

[Kaurie]

White Mage is also a ranged caster, so is Scholar. So is Astrologer. It has the same playstyle when you throw on cleric stance. Bard is also a magical caster when you use WM, and Machinist is a magical caster when you use GB.

7 classes that play similar. Do we need "ANOTHER" one that plays just like it? No, we have 3 healers that play like it, 4 damage dealers that play like that and...

*gasp* "0" tanks that play like that! =3

My SMN plays like a tank when mobs are hitting it

[FinalWolf]

I don't know about Red mage as a tank it might work but I can really see a new tank called judge (think ff12 judges) as one.

[Magis]

I'd personally like to see the rigid roles shattered and each job designed uniquely, but pfft, that would take balancing.

Nah, RDM is gonna be shoved into one of the three roles we get and be a RDM in name only. Can't be a jack of all trades (master of none) if you are only allowed 1 role per job.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Not sure if this is what those posters meant, but this is how I interpreted it:

The ratio of 2 casters to 3 tanks meaning we should have another caster has absolutely nothing to do with queue times. It does have to do with providing options for people who prefer to play in that niche. For example, I love playing magic damage type jobs, and am fairly underwhelmed by both BLM and SMN. I play SMN now, and yes it's fun, but it's not exactly what I want. It would be awesome if there were more magic damage jobs to choose from.

Except there is no Magic Caster type tank job. However there are many caster type DPS jobs.

[SendohJin]

PLD and WHM are the only jobs that most players wouldn't rather it was a DPS. players wanting something to be DPS isn't a reason to make that thing a DPS.

players wanting to play DPS are why DPS queues are longer than tank/healer queues. what players want and what the game needs is not the same thing.

[SendohJin]

Nah, RDM is gonna be shoved into one of the three roles we get and be a RDM in name only. Can't be a jack of all trades (master of none) if you are only allowed 1 role per job.

sure you can. tanks are not master DPS but they do DPS, tanks are not master healers but they can heal, tanks also debuff. PLD is already the master of taking physical damage and DRK is already the master of taking magic damage so RDM doesn't have to be the master of either of those either. they just have to do those adequately enough to fill the role, like WAR. and RDM will probably do less DPS than WAR also, as long as they provide utility in party buffs and debuffs they will be fine.

[Kaurie]

Except there is no Magic Caster type tank job. However there are many caster type DPS jobs.

Not invalidating your request. There are no magic caster tank jobs, and it would be neat.

Personally, I'd like to see more varying playstyle in casters.

I'd watch your posts though, you've contradicted yourself. i.e.

"Hybrids cannot work in a game where all classes are designed to be one role. The only class that has multiple roles is tanks which can heal and dps well."
vs
"White Mage is also a ranged caster, so is Scholar. So is Astrologer. It has the same playstyle when you throw on cleric stance."

[Nomad-phx]

Well it could be a tank or a support really. Personally I'd like to see a tank class ppl won't avoid like the plague cause "its boring". News flash: All roles press a sequence of buttons resulting in causing cascading numbers to appear in your screen(how larger numbers affect fun I'll never understand) so please SE, give us more " interesting " tanks to utilize.