Red Mage (Tank) Please!

[FinalWolf]

I don't know about Red mage as a tank it might work but I can really see a new tank called judge (think ff12 judges) as one.

[Magis]

I'd personally like to see the rigid roles shattered and each job designed uniquely, but pfft, that would take balancing.

Nah, RDM is gonna be shoved into one of the three roles we get and be a RDM in name only. Can't be a jack of all trades (master of none) if you are only allowed 1 role per job.

[SendohJin]

Nah, RDM is gonna be shoved into one of the three roles we get and be a RDM in name only. Can't be a jack of all trades (master of none) if you are only allowed 1 role per job.

sure you can. tanks are not master DPS but they do DPS, tanks are not master healers but they can heal, tanks also debuff. PLD is already the master of taking physical damage and DRK is already the master of taking magic damage so RDM doesn't have to be the master of either of those either. they just have to do those adequately enough to fill the role, like WAR. and RDM will probably do less DPS than WAR also, as long as they provide utility in party buffs and debuffs they will be fine.

[SendohJin]

PLD and WHM are the only jobs that most players wouldn't rather it was a DPS. players wanting something to be DPS isn't a reason to make that thing a DPS.

players wanting to play DPS are why DPS queues are longer than tank/healer queues. what players want and what the game needs is not the same thing.

[Nomad-phx]

Well it could be a tank or a support really. Personally I'd like to see a tank class ppl won't avoid like the plague cause "its boring". News flash: All roles press a sequence of buttons resulting in causing cascading numbers to appear in your screen(how larger numbers affect fun I'll never understand) so please SE, give us more " interesting " tanks to utilize.

[SendohJin]

Personally I'd like to see a tank class ppl won't avoid like the plague cause "its boring".

people who say that are lying. WAR is not boring. DPS who refuse to play it or not avoiding it cause it's boring, they don't like that responsilbity.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

people who say that are lying. WAR is not boring. DPS who refuse to play it or not avoiding it cause it's boring, they don't like that responsilbity.

Warrior is just one of many tanking playstyles though. I like the aesthetic but I don't like how it plays myself.

[Kaurie]

people who say that are lying. WAR is not boring. DPS who refuse to play it or not avoiding it cause it's boring, they don't like that responsilbity.

False. I sometimes enjoy PLD, but every time I try to play my WAR my eyes start to bleed with boredom.

Obviously, to each their own.

[SendohJin]

Warrior is just one of many tanking playstyles though. I like the aesthetic but I don't like how it plays myself.

not liking the playstyle doesn't make it boring. i no longer like how BRD plays that doesn't mean i call it boring, i use "clunky" as the default descriptor.

False. I sometimes enjoy PLD, but every time I try to play my WAR my eyes start to bleed with boredom.

Obviously, to each their own.

that does not reinforce the position that tanking in general has to be boring. there isn't anything mechanical about WAR or melee DPS that makes one more boring than the other besides not having to move from flank to rear. and if you're saying you're okay with PLD, than you don't even have that.

[Kaurie]

that does not reinforce the position that tanking in general has to be boring. there isn't anything mechanical about WAR or melee DPS that makes one more boring than the other besides not having to move from flank to rear. and if you're saying you're okay with PLD, than you don't even have that.

What? I don't even understand your retort. However, you said that a DPS who finds WAR boring is due to tanking responsibility and not the job design itself. I am saying that I am 1 example which contradicts that, proving it a false statement.