Pld- what secondary dps stat do you stack?

[Nomad-phx]

Whenever a new set of raids/gear comes out I always look what SE stacks on my gear before retuning with crafted/melds to fit my purpose. But with crafted raid gear poop till 3.2, I found I can only work 1 stat after str and chose crit for 2k royal authority and 6-7k clemency. What did y'all stack?

[Sapphidia]

I generally have been favoring Crit where possible, though of course right now ilevel > all. The exception was Pentamelded accessories, where I ended up going with Fending Ears/Wrists instead of Slaying due to being Acc/Crit.

I'm basing Crit though on the assumption that the weightings are similar to most other classes, plus the fact that it affects all skills and attacks including heals. In 2.0 it was basically Det >>>>> Crit > Sks, but it -seems- Crit has now taken top spot. I havent yet seen exact DPS weightings though, but I don't see a reason that Crit wouldn't be as important for Paladins as it is for other dps classes. Skillspeed is nice given the higher weighting on DOTs we have now, but doesnt affect cast speed and we're very TP limited.

Right now though choosing stats as a Paladin is more about "avoiding Parry" than "choosing a specific dps stat". For now, unless I hear otherwise from new testing, my personal preference will be Crit > Det > Sks. If they boost our TP regen then SkS will probably move up the rankings.

If anyone has any links to any specific tests/weighting for Paladins that show that Det or Sks actually impacts DPS more than Crit (maybe due to PLDs not having access to Internal Release) then I'd be interested to see - thankfully right now there isnt really any aspect of my gearing where i've had to make a decision between two stats outside of avoiding parry.

[Phoenicia]

Personally what I would stack on my PLD and/or DRK: Accuracy cap > Det >= Crit > Skill Speed.

On WAR: Accuracy cap > SkS to 480+ > Crit > Det > more SkS.

Crit is nice now since it adds chance AND crit damage. But DRK and PLD have no native crit boosts, unlike WAR. So I prefer the sure damage from determination. However, Determination is only slightly better than crit for me. At least imo.

SkS is awesome now since PLD can fit 1 more GCD between its combos without having Goring Blade drop. Goring Blade is 24s or 9.6 GCDs, having more SkS would easily fit 10 GCDs into the 24 seconds. SkS also affects DoTs and PLD has over 400 potency DoT damage every 25 seconds (between GB and CoS). I would stack SkS if DRK and PLD didn't have their TP issues, but as it stands, SkS is my least favorite stack on PLD and DRK.

If anyone has any links to any specific tests/weighting for Paladins that show that Det or Sks actually impacts DPS more than Crit (maybe due to PLDs not having access to Internal Release) then I'd be interested to see - thankfully right now there isnt really any aspect of my gearing where i've had to make a decision between two stats outside of avoiding parry.

Do to their nature, tanks have a very similar stat weight to DRG. They are not exactly the same, but VERY similar.

[Sapphidia]

Yeah the TP thing is the only thing making me leery on skillspeed.

If they DO give some kind of boost to TP regen, both in Sword AND Shield Oath, I'll probably prioritise it over Det/Crit for now. I just enjoy the feel of stacking it and at least want to hit the breakpoints for additional GCDs under FoF and reducing clipping from Goring.

Offtopic, I wish they'd do what WoW did and consolidate Skill Speed and Spell Speed into a single "haste" stat, so Paladins stacking skillspeed also increase the cast rate of Clemency and Flash.

[Anubis_Nephthys]

The 150 accessories are not poop.

[Nadirah]

The 150 accessories are not poop.

They are until you spend a load and stuff them full of materia.

[Dante_V]

They are until you spend a load and stuff them full of materia.

Why would you assume anyone would be implying otherwise?

Any how the pentamelded slaying acc are BiS at this point for the vit meta in savage.

As far as the OP goes every stat weight chart I've seen has crit over det so far. This would also be emphasized to a greater degree on Pally I think since the affect of det on auto attacks was nerfed when homogenizing the secondaries.

[Nadirah]

Why would you assume anyone would be implying otherwise?

Any how the pentamelded slaying acc are BiS at this point for the vit meta in savage.

As far as the OP goes every stat weight chart I've seen has crit over det so far. This would also be emphasized to a greater degree on Pally I think since the affect of det on auto attacks was nerfed when homogenizing the secondaries.

Because I've seen some really out there comments on these forums.

[Nomad-phx]

The 150 accessories are not poop.

Your right, I really meant the 180 left side stuff as the main stat loss is just far too great ATM. The accessories are good though, I have fending eating/bracelet/rings all melded with 30 str and they're only -150 HP per piece from i180 so -600hp/+120 str.

[Nomad-phx]

I prefer fending w/ str because of cost and personal preference of vit>str because that's how our group has always raided so healers can dps more. I originally chose pld because it was simple and being my 1st REAL mmo I needed simple lol I know there's tons of rotations/strategies for dps while tanking but I'm lucky enough to have super dope healers/dps that don't need my top tier damage as long as I have aggro/don't die so that's where my "I'm a tank not a full dps" comes from.(str on my accessories is aggro assistance/clemency potency)