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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    In 3.0 using Urths fount with the purpose of obtaining tier IV materias is an incredibly poor way to SB.
    It's faster (and cheaper) than the other available options, to be honest. The massive HP increase of everything in HW, the far more spread-out nature of world mobs, and the lack of a Castrum Meridianum equivalent means that it's a long, dull grind to spiritbond even a single piece of gear. The cost is also a major concern, unless the drop rate for IVs on 51+ gear is somehow massively increased over the base 45+ gear. I can get a full set of the crafting stuff from Mor Dhona and slam out a fully spiritbound left-side in less than 30 minutes over at the Castrum by Wineport (Meteor Survivor Rings + Potion, but no cheap materia melds) and will always, at the very least, equal the replacement cost of the gear after selling the materia (with an average of about 1 IV for every full spiritbond run). The same can't be said for HW binding, especially if you're trying to spiritbond DoM/DoW stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    The cost is also a major concern, unless the drop rate for IVs on 51+ gear is somehow massively increased over the base 45+ gear.
    I don't have enough data to give hard numbers on this, but in my experience the level 55 left side gear (ramie/dhalmel) gives tier IV materia more often than it doesn't. Easily worth the NPC vendor prices for the gear especially if you meld junk materia to them to compensate for it being NQ.

    There aren't a lot of great ways to blitz spiritbonding these in one sitting that haven't been mentioned above, but if you keep using them when you can then you'll get a decent supply of them over time. I'll just switch to the spiritbonding gear set whenever I need to make a bunch of refined mats that don't need to be HQ, for instance.
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    It's faster (and cheaper) than the other available options, to be honest.
    Its slower, and more expensive. Why? Well because:
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    unless the drop rate for IVs on 51+ gear is somehow massively increased over the base 45+ gear.
    Which it is. A 10% drop chance from 45+ vs a 75% drop chance from 55~ (moghome)

    30 minutes to SBing lvl 45, 1 hour for SBing (via gathering) lvl 55.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    especially if you're trying to spiritbond DoM/DoW stuff.
    Now why would anyone actually waste their time SBing DoM/DoW items?


    I mentioned it before in a different thread, but it's pretty tiring seeing ''Urths fount'' as best SB place time, and time again. It's one of the reasons I imagine why Tier IV (crafting) materias are still so overpriced. Because few people want to spend an hour for maybe 1 of them. More people would SB if they realised they could get 5 in that same hour instead...while also getting 6-7 stacks of gathering items they can sell.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 09-11-2015 at 04:55 AM.

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    Now why would anyone actually waste their time SBing DoM/DoW items?
    For the tier 4s to play materia roulette with. The crafted i160 bodies can give tier 5s (I've gotten 2 tier 5s from about 6 or 7 i160 pieces, and the hq i160 pieces melded with 3 or so pieces of materia take literally 2 dungeon runs to spiritbond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OoglieBooglie View Post
    For the tier 4s to play materia roulette with. The crafted i160 bodies can give tier 5s (I've gotten 2 tier 5s from about 6 or 7 i160 pieces, and the hq i160 pieces melded with 3 or so pieces of materia take literally 2 dungeon runs to spiritbond.
    With the conversion rate being about 100:1, IV : V~ ; I say good luck with that if you obtain your SBs via lvl 45-50 equipment.
    That would take about 50 hours of SBing.
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