Maybe a re-evaluiation on accuracy in Savage Alexander [Casters need not read]

[Sapphic]

Flank refers to the sides only. (It is the definition of "flank", after all.)
Rear accuracy requirements are lower than flank.

Flank and rear caps are the same. Only front is different.

Accuracy is pointless.

Just another artificial difficulty gate. It prevents too many Jobs from being able to equip optimal gear as they have to juggle this silly accuracy value.

The sad thing is they thought they were being cool by removing accuracy from weapons and lowering the amount of accuracy required overall and are like "hey look guys! We fixed the accuracy itemization problems!".

I guess everyone at SE plays dps as monk and dragoon? Since those are the only dps Jobs loaded with accuracy at the moment.

I wanted to buy the Eso hat for MKN this week, but due to accuracy, couldnt. as Would drop me too low for A3 that even food wouldn't get me back to cap. @600. 190 gordian cap has +47 accuracy, cap for A3 is 630.

[Culfinrandir]

If you think Accuracy is hilarious, you should check out healers. Sub 400 Acc. XD Maybe all our characters secretly need glasses? All that flying in Heavensward caused some vision problems, I guess.

(In all seriousness, Aero III missing in A2S makes me so mad.)

I missed with Ruin II as SCH with a mix of Esoterics, upgraded Law & Proto-Gordian gear (circa 350 Acc). This was in NEVERREAP. I felt embarrassed. I'd hate to try & DPS in Alex Savage!

[Selli]

I missed with Ruin II as SCH with a mix of Esoterics, upgraded Law & Proto-Gordian gear (circa 350 Acc). This was in NEVERREAP. I felt embarrassed. I'd hate to try & DPS in Alex Savage!

Lol! XD

Misses in Alexander Savage aren't that bad (helps that in A1S as a healer, you're usually around the center so most of your attacks are from the rear), I think I've had about 1-3 normally. A2S is a little bit harder because mobs are everywhere and it can get chaotic so your missing chances are much greater.

[Allyrion]

Flank and rear caps are the same. Only front is different.

When was that changed?
Because rear and flank have been proven to have different acc caps before.
People just mostly use the Flank because it's higher than rear, but rear has always had a lower cap.
Unless they changed it of course.

[Adrasteia]

I missed with Ruin II as SCH with a mix of Esoterics, upgraded Law & Proto-Gordian gear (circa 350 Acc). This was in NEVERREAP. I felt embarrassed. I'd hate to try & DPS in Alex Savage!

The (very) rough Accuracy caps for current content as a healer are something along the lines of:

375~: EXDR.
400~: A1-A4.
425~: Bismarck Extreme.
440~: Ravana Extreme.

I haven't done Savage enough (re: not at all) to pin down an Accuray cap, but I hear tell of something in the 490 (A1S) to 520 (A4S) range. You can get within spitting distance with pentamelded accessories (502~ with +Accuracy mainstat food), and at the cap if you're insane enough to craft one of the i180 left-side items.

(Really, the weirdest thing about all of this: why is there an (approximately) 1% miss chance in EXDR? Was this necessary at all?)

[UBERHAXED]

Flank and rear caps are the same. Only front is different.



I wanted to buy the Eso hat for MKN this week, but due to accuracy, couldnt. as Would drop me too low for A3 that even food wouldn't get me back to cap. @600. 190 gordian cap has +47 accuracy, cap for A3 is 630.

Rear and flank requirements are different, hence the change to summoner's pet's to treat attacks as form the rear. Magic attack only hit form the rear so this change will allow the pet to have the same accuracy requirements as the summoner. This is the reason back in 2.0, casters had different accuracy requirements (e.g. Coil of Bahamut) because they only had to meet the rear requirements and melee all had positionals and had to meet the rear and flank requirements (flank being higher than rear, so basically the flank requirements). Bard only needed to meet rear but would occasionally miss if they had attacked from the flank or front.

[Ronyx]

Can someone throw those numbers of Accuracy needed for Savage? It might be a gate but the i200 gears slowly make that breech smaller and accuracy is needed so that people stay in their roles. SE dont want healer to be DPSing they want that DPS do their job and tank their job.

[Niqote]

Can someone throw those numbers of Accuracy needed for Savage? It might be a gate but the i200 gears slowly make that breech smaller and accuracy is needed so that people stay in their roles. SE dont want healer to be DPSing they want that DPS do their job and tank their job.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../45797398.html

I can't say if it is 100% accurate (ha!)

About healers DPS - The reason it is an issue/being brought up is because the DEVs specifically stated that they are designing the DPS races in Alexander Savage to ''take into consideration that healers will also DPS'' which is really... really annoying when your accuracy is 400 or less.

Also it makes it feel like all jobs are DPS now.

[Ronove]

Just so you know, SMNs need the flank ACC cap for their pet and healers are being forced to DD with their abysmal ACC.
Might be worth adding to the discussion :3

edit: Clearly I missed that pet change, well there ya go *runs away*.

I do want to point out I don't think the change applies to book smacks. I've missed book smacks on adds in A1S when I was facing their front. Granted not much of an issue compared to other classes.

[Culfinrandir]

The (very) rough Accuracy caps for current content as a healer are something along the lines of:

375~: EXDR.
400~: A1-A4.
425~: Bismarck Extreme.
440~: Ravana Extreme.

(snip)

(Really, the weirdest thing about all of this: why is there an (approximately) 1% miss chance in EXDR? Was this necessary at all?)

Thanks for the info, it's greatly appreciated. I just noticed that my lvl50 WHM in Ironworks gear has over 400 Acc at i121 but my SCH at i186 is 350 Acc. -_0