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    silverhope's Avatar
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    Meg Xori
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80

    Still Having Issues in A1s

    Im ilvl193 and I am partner with a whm on our savage runs. I am having mp issues befor the first proton beam. I have tried Both stances and conserving mp and using all my cds. Light speed for the rappid aoe heals and synastry after add phase.

    The major issue im having is keeping my tank up while healing bomb targets. With only 1 instant heal every 40sec makes this really rough. Might get lucky and get a insta bene2 but cant rely on it.

    Any astros doing A1 that can give me some pointers?

    Also last week be for the buffs I didn't have this issue and we got to 15% pretty reg (dps was not enough) but this week we didnt get close even with all the potency buffs we got.
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    Rewind's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Rewind
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 61
    Hey!

    Unfortunately I have a SCH partner so the play it is a bit different - just a quick question before I respond - are you running a BRD/MCH in your composition? And what tanks are in your comp?
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    TatoRazzino's Avatar
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    Blair Waldorf
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I'm paired with a SCH and I'm solo healing the phase pre-split in Diurnal, and I do the following:
    Aspected Benefic on the MT and I'm healing him normally with Benefic until the first AoE blast goes off. I do an Aspected Helios after the blast and I use Synastry on my MT for the first prey. For the second prey, I use Lightspeed to conserve MP. After the split, I'm healing my tank normally and doing Aspected Helios after the AoE blasts. For preys, I use Synastry on my tank and I heal my assigned prey target; if my tank gets prey, I use Synastry on the other tank. I pop Luminiferous Aether whenever it's up and I extend it with Celestial Opposition. On phase 1, I use it around the time the Oppressor casts his Resin Bombs and I'm usually around 9K on the split. Our Bard sings the MP song during jumps and I use Collective Unconscious when we get to the corner.
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    Last edited by TatoRazzino; 08-28-2015 at 01:12 PM.

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    DreamWeaver's Avatar
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    There's a Royal Fount directly after the Resin Cast bar, please make sure you top up the tank right after that attack before the Oppressors perform their Lasers + Gunnery Pods + Preys.

    If you do not top the tank back up from that particular Royal Fount, you'll always be 1 GCD behind, and that can be extremely difficult to work with due to the tight timings of Prey + Royal Fount + Hyper Compression.

    Also Synastry.
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    TatoRazzino's Avatar
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    Blair Waldorf
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    When I was paired with a WHM, I did the same thing after the split and the only change is that I was DPSing on phase 1. What I did to conserve MP while DPSing is using Aero as a cross class. Adding Aero to your rotation will save a lot of MP since it's the same damage as one Malefic II for about half the cost.
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  6. #6
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    The major issue im having is keeping my tank up while healing bomb targets.
    You use synastry? If not, try this
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I've done A1S with both an AST and a SCH.

    You should be using Synastry on your tank and healing your prey target (so 2 people per healer). I have my static SCH/AST call out which prey target he is taking and I do the other. A prey target typically does not need more than 2 heals (unless their add is still alive) before you switch back to your tank, it's about 2 GCDs before the cleave comes out.

    I generally save my instant heal (Tetra) for my tank to use after I have healed my prey target twice, then I generally throw another Cure onto my prey target if they are not above 75% 'cause I don't want the AoE to kill them.

    Your tanks should both be popping out cooldowns for this phase, as your attention is focused primarily on your prey target. They should also be rotating who takes the bigger hit for the tank buster. WAR should Holmgang 1st and 3rd, and the PLD/DRK uses Hallowed/Living Dead on the 2nd.

    When we first started clearing, we would actually see the enrage. Since the enrage happens after another set of adds after (I believe) their 3rd or 4th landing. We would ignore the adds completely and have the WHM (myself) basically pick them up, run around, and die, lol. By keeping the buggers distracted, we managed to beat it by the skin of our teeth.

    ...

    And we have seen nothing but Bard loot since that day. (Seriously, our Bard is already i200 and everyone else has just passed i195 this week. ._.)
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    Last edited by Selli; 08-28-2015 at 05:42 PM.

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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Character
    Crimson Bloodrose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Use Sinastry.
    Once double prey pops up, don't panic and throw one or even two heals to your tank, 6 seconds is a lot before prey starts happening. Then switch to your pray mark and unleash all your healing fury there. Go back to the tank, cast disable on the opressor and you should have time for at least landing one heal. The tank will topped due to sinastry.

    If you are having mana issues with AST, it's because you are panicking and making use of benefic II or aspected benefic more than you should. The regular benefic mana cost is totally laughable (costs far less mana than Cure and physick from the other healers) so even if you spam it you are never going have mana issues.
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Gallus might be on to something at least I was having the same problems on my first few rounds in A1S as AST. I was out of mp really fast and the lack of ewer cards wasn't helping (damn you spire :P). We did it with SCH and AST. The most likely conclusion is that you are panicking and throwing unnecessary high cost heals. But as general tips as the other have said.

    1. Use Synastry during double prey.
    2. Don't forget disable!
    3. Lightspeed when you know you have to heal alot to save mp.
    4. Don't save LA until you're really low on MP. You can start using at around 8-9k mp.
    5. Use Collective Unconscious after resin bombs during jump phase.
    6. Don't forget you can use Celestial Opposition to extend regen effects too.

    If you're already doing this you might need to ask your healing partner to heal a bit more if that is a possibility.
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    Last edited by Miiu; 08-28-2015 at 07:22 PM.

  10. #10
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    Elth Shortfuse
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I never had MP issues as AST in both Nocturnal and Diurnal. Knowing the exact phases helps a lot when it comes to cooldowns.

    From what you said you seem to have issues in P1 (most likely you are healing solo), here's a little breakdown :

    Assuming Diurnal Sect :
    Spam ONLY Benefic 1, i'm ilvl193 too and it's enough, even if sometimes a little Benefic 2 instant proc can be useful, don't use it too much.

    Big AoE -> Aspected Helios
    Hydrothermal missile (Prey) Start casting Benefic 1 on Prey target before the 1st missiles comes down, Lightspeed, 2 Benefic 2 on prey Target, Essential Dignity on the Tank, start healing the tank again
    Big AoE -> the first A.Helios is still running, don't heal the raid
    Photon Spaser -> No one takes damage, top off people too low on health with Benefic 1 while placing yourself for...
    Resin Bomb -> Keep A.Benefic up on the tank while running
    Photon Spaser -> Light a smoke or if people are too low on health, start casting Aspected Helios before the...
    Big AoE -> Aspected Helios OR Helios if you precasted A.Helios
    Emergency Deployment (ADDS) -> Take care, don't get Mini. You can throw an additionnal Helios here if things are going a little south.
    Hydrothermal Missile (Prey) -> Synastry the tank, start casting Benefic 1 before the first missile hit, then 2 Benefic 2, Essential Dignity on your tank if he's taking too much damage, he REALLY needs to be topped of for...
    Big AoE-> Helios
    Big AoE -> Helios
    Photon Spaser -> Aspected Helios, start casting Helios again for
    Double Big AoE, P1 done, 0.5 comes say hello.

    Ofcourse pop LA when you're around 9k MP. Alternatively, you can pop Synastry on the FIRST prey, and Lightspeed on the second to be allowed to replace yourself easily for the double big aoes followed by the Photon Spaser. Might even be better to reduce the cost of that nasty Helios spamming but in return Synastry increases the potency of your Helioses so... i don't know, both are good.

    (sorry for "Big AoE" i can't remember the name of this ability, the cannon barrage like thingy)

    It's the same, every fight. Note that i've not done this fight a lot POST-ASTbuff, hence the late use of Synastry and some ED that might not be necessary i don't know. But overall, it shouldn't be too different.
    Also note that I pretty much always engage with AoE Spear+CO, and pop LA in the last seconds of the buff, allowing it to come back a little sooner.

    If you didn't overreact you should be well over 50% mana and LA coming soon after the beggining of P2.

    P2 is pretty much the same idea, except that there's now two people healing the big AoEs and only one Prey phase per Jump. Synastry the tank, Benefic1 2x Benefic2 on prey target, Essential dignity the tank before the Hypercompressed Plasma (tankbuster), rinse and repeat.

    Disclaimer : Might not be the best way to do it, might even be a TERRIBLE way to do it, but it worked for me so... meh.
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    Last edited by Elth; 08-28-2015 at 09:00 PM.

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