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    Kayo Lireaux
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    Famfrit
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    Archer Lv 60
    Samurai = DPS. We already have a 2H tank in the game. Honestly it shouldve been DK that was DPS and Samurai as Tank but oh well, the ball has been dropped. Cant change it now. Its not that big of a stretch for Samurai anyway. Samurai armor has never really been the most resilient anyway. I just see DRK as a sort of Sith Lord kind of job which just screams hot blooded, rage-filled, kill or be killed DPS. Samurai have bushido and the honor system which is a more nobler cause lending itself to protecting others.

    I really have no idea about what they should do with Red Mage. I guess a melee/ranged DPS hybrid would be the best fit. Assuming they stick to traditional Red Mage. Even so, RDM has always been a hybrid BLM and WHM, iirc. Some have said tank ... I can go for that too. We could always use more tanks and itd be a semi-unique approach to a clothy. Itd be great if they finally introduced a spec system with this job so it can fulfill either healer or DPS as its always been able to.
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    Altan Rapsied
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    What about magic and support for red mage? we don't have such job for now
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    Altan Rapsied
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltanRapsied View Post
    What about magic dps and support for red mage?
    Everyone ignoring me :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltanRapsied View Post
    Everyone ignoring me :c
    Not hard to guess, it would mean a DPS caster version of BRD,
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Not hard to guess, it would mean a DPS caster version of BRD,
    I would like that. I don't really get why they made MCH a support as we already have a physical ranged support. I don't get why we have 3 melee DPS fulfilling essentially the same niche.

    It would be nice to have a
    melee/physical/dps/support -
    ranged/physical/dps/support - MCH + BRD
    melee/magical/dps/support -
    ranged/magical/dps/support -
    melee/physical/dps - NIN, DRG, MNK
    melee/magical/dps -
    ranged/physical/dps -
    ranged/magical/dps - SMN, BLM

    melee/physical/tank - WAR, PLD
    melee/magical/tank - DRK
    melee/evasion/tank -

    ranged/magical/shields heals - SCH
    ranged/magical/regen heals - WHM
    ranged/magical/buffs and CC heals - AST, sort of.

    I'd like to see less duplicates and more variety into these different niches. To add to some of the above:
    It would be great if instead of being a WHM/SCH hybrid, AST primarily did buffs combined with CC. It would be neat if they could alter the course of incoming damage - i.e. an attack is about to hit the tank and the AST sends a shooting star to intercept, scattering the damage away and only letting X% through to hit the tank. It would be a bit like shields, but it'd be something that's not pre-emptive like a shield that lasts for 30 seconds, but is rewarded by blocking more damage.

    For evasion tank, I am thinking something along the lines of Warrior tank from Tera.

    On topic
    I'd like to see SAM as melee/dps/support/physical OR evasion tank

    I'd like to see RDM as melee/magical/support/dps OR ranged/magical/support/dps
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 08-29-2015 at 06:17 AM.

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    Ohki Doki
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Redmage as dps, with jobs in this game having to fit 1 role or another I feel to slot redmage as a healer in another ff game would be an enormous disappointment. I feel giving Redmage access to a Rapier type sword, weapon enhance spells/weaponskills which play to that strength, a decent selection of offensive and yes limited healing magics would allow players coming from ffxi and players already here to play redmage the way people have always drooled over.
    That said Samurai's historical role makes it an obvious parry tank, give it the 2 traditional Katana weapons and let it go apeshit, also just floating it out there Samurai are plate armor wearing katana wielding knights, the defining characteristic is a Samurai is a knight in the service of a Feudal Lord. A wandering Samurai without a master is called a Ronin, for the sake of Theme if we had Samurai in this game it should be called Ronin.
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    Kimbot Tran
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 60
    Red Mage as a fire fighter and Samurai as a cowboy.

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    Isabeau Tphurer
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Samurai - Melee DPS

    as far as Red Mage goes, would be very interesting to see a mage in a tank role
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Magic melee DPS for RDM, I think balance issues would arise if they could do both melee and ranged efficiently, and would have to weaker than all other classes in both regards. Don't think we want another AST where it took them 2 months to properly balance it out. SAM can be either a tank or melee DPS, we're lacking a 2H melee DPS so DPS is the way to go I think.

    I can already see the 10 hour long queues if they introduce two DPS though. =l
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Against my own personal desires, I picked DPS for both.

    I'd love to see Red Mage be a healer, but...a lot of people that had never tanked or healed picked up Dark Knight and Astrologian because they wanted to try the new jobs. And I commend them for that, I really do.

    But arrogance and a lack of understanding of what their respective roles are supposed to be doing is a very, very bad combination.
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