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    Newish Ninja looking for some answers

    Hi I have some questions about my numbers as a ninja, since some ppl I play with have told me I am 200ish lower then where I need to be.

    My group makeup is PLD, DRK, MNK, BLM (SUM - SA2), MCN, NIN, SCH, WHM.

    All the, lets call it "Intense Conversations" have been around SA1, and how my dps is low. Now mind you all the parses have been set to reset after 30s so jumps from the Oppressor are included but here is the past few parses.

    This week *With 1 Death*


    Last week


    2 weeks ago


    So my question I guess stems to if my numbers are low with having to keep up DE rather then using AE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    Hi I have some questions about my numbers as a ninja, since some ppl I play with have told me I am 200ish lower then where I need to be.

    My group makeup is PLD, DRK, MNK, BLM (SUM - SA2), MCN, NIN, SCH, WHM.

    All the, lets call it "Intense Conversations" have been around SA1, and how my dps is low. Now mind you all the parses have been set to reset after 30s so jumps from the Oppressor are included but here is the past few parses.

    This week *With 1 Death*


    Last week


    2 weeks ago


    So my question I guess stems to if my numbers are low with having to keep up DE rather then using AE.
    Could we get a bit more info like the gear you're wearing. You could be doing bad or you could be doing fine hard to know without more info.
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    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RGD7

    That was my gear including food, also this past week no pots were used on my part due to the fact I ran out mid raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RGD7

    That was my gear including food, also this past week no pots were used on my part due to the fact I ran out mid raid
    With you're gear you could be in the 900s even applying your own slashing debuff with that kill time. What does your opener look like and how are you managing cds during the fight and are you letting huton fall off by mistake in the fights. Also are you the one doing the limit break?
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    My opener is SE(B4B)-GS(IR)-DE(pot)-SE-TA-SF-Kass-Mul-Raiton-SE(DWAD+Mug)-GL(Duality)-AE-Jug then go into regular rotation

    Huton is always up i never let it fall and no I am not the one that lbs but throughout the fight I never am able to get a AE up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    My opener is SE(B4B)-GS(IR)-DE(pot)-SE-TA-SF-Kass-Mul-Raiton-SE(DWAD+Mug)-GL(Duality)-AE-Jug then go into regular rotation

    Huton is always up i never let it fall and no I am not the one that lbs but throughout the fight I never am able to get a AE up.
    I'm not the best with trying to explain things fully but have you read https://leggerlessxiv.wordpress.com/? or the Ninja thread on this forum it gives some good info. You should be able to use AE in more then just your opener iirc its about 1 every min or so.

    The next thing I'm curious to know is do you have bad mudra lag or are you able to cast them with no issues?
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    oh no mudra lag is not a issue for me at all. Dont remember where I read it but if you could hit your mudra 15 times before they went on gcd you had the ideal set up which i can do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    My opener is SE(B4B)-GS(IR)-DE(pot)-SE-TA-SF-Kass-Mul-Raiton-SE(DWAD+Mug)-GL(Duality)-AE-Jug then go into regular rotation.
    TBH that opener is pretty much what I do (assuming you precast suiton, hope you aren't doing it the same GCD as trick attack). I have similar gear to you and my overall fight dps for a1s is usually mid to high 900s. Seems like your in fight rotation is what's letting you down, as your opener is fine, A1S requires a bit of weaving to nail those positionals. Don't be lazy and just stay where you are as the boss turns. Move with the boss's turns if required. Do trick attack as soon as it's up. Reapply huton during jumps so you're not forced to do more armor crushes than necessary.

    You are being out-dps'd by a tank, something isn't right there. You say you're never able to do AE, so maybe maintaining huton is an issue and doing huton during jumps might help a bit.
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    Doing huton during jumps will probably fix a lot of my issues ill try it out next week, and tbh my group isn't doing bad we are on SA3 and before add phase i pull 1100ish so maybe the huton thing will fix my issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    Doing huton during jumps will probably fix a lot of my issues ill try it out next week, and tbh my group isn't doing bad we are on SA3 and before add phase i pull 1100ish so maybe the huton thing will fix my issues
    TBH I'm not sure if it's a strat anyone else is doing, just something that helped me. Mudra timing usually ends up such that ninjitsu comes up right on or shortly after jump, do huton while running and dodging resin, and it's up for suiton/trick attack after dancing edge when they land.
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