Housing - When are we getting more?

[DkFusion]

So I've seen posts that are upset about the state of housing and I understand. Daily I sift through the residential districts to see if maybe someone has relinquished their land. Every day I'm met with disappointment.My group and I, ~15 players, made a Free Company close to Heavensward dropping. The core 8 of us are a late night static (roughly 2 am EST - 5 am EST). Currently we are locked out of crafting and tinkering with an airship regardless of how people feel about it we can't do it.

-No we do not want to merge with some other FC if we could even find one as we like our design behind ours. What's the point of giving up aspects of our Free Company just to "see" an airship, not saying we'd have permission just joining some random FC with leadership already in place, that we'd get to control anything about it.

-The ability to buy multiple housing created massive issues. In one ward alone a Free Company holds 8 plots. I don't know if FC is even active.

So when will we have access to this content as the group that would like to continue to play together?

[Elim]

There's a three step plan for housing. I am sure someone can provide you a link to the information (I'm too lazy) but tl;dr step 1) implement a house moving feature, 2) free up abandoned houses, 3) maybe add more wards to the existing areas(mist, lavender beds and goblet) or maybe add Ishgard housing wards. It wont all happen in patch 3.1... it'll be spread out over a few patches.

[Risvertasashi]

So when will we have access to this content as the group that would like to continue to play together?

Well... Unfortunately, they had a feature for relinquishing land ready to go before personal housing was even a thing, but there was a sh**storm from 1-person FCs that seem to think it's their godgiven right to hold on to a limited resource even if they unsub for years. However, they've said they're going to move forward with it pretty soon. Expect a lot of houses to free up and have money ready to buy one, as while this feature will help, there's still (and will always be) a massive shortage of houses compared to people that want to buy them.

3.1 would be my best guess. But whenever it is... Just have the money ready to go and be ready to log in as soon as the patch's maintenance ends.

[Dante_V]

I think the biggest mark against housing relinquishment is that it literally in and of itself solves no issue what so ever. Even if 100 houses per server get repo you still have servers with upwards of 500k players that don't have a house. Lets say you narrow the demand down based on the ability to pay strictly and its only 100k people with viable demand, you are still talking about only a fraction of a percent of people acquiring a house the only difference is now you've also pissed some other people off.

The only answer here is to provide an adequate supply of housing for everyone and limit the amount of properties available to people. Personal housing shouldn't even be a thing with the supply of houses so low and it was a TERRIBLE idea to implement.

[Risvertasashi]

I think the biggest mark against housing relinquishment is that it literally in and of itself solves no issue what so ever.

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Personal housing shouldn't even be a thing with the supply of houses so low and it was a TERRIBLE idea to implement.

It makes a terrible system less hopeless. My FC was fortunate enough to buy the last house on our server... I know some friends that have gone on to form their own FCs and just can't get one. At least with this, they'll stand a chance with 1 of the many abandoned houses. It will give us a flood of housing at first and then ensure a steady trickle for hopefuls thereafter.

But yes, it's a terrible system.

[Elim]

House sharing will help a little bit. It wont give access to ship building, but to everything else.

I actually haven't read an official article or dev post about house sharing. I should do that. I've only read second hand information. Someone posted that the max will be five people. I sure hope it isn't. Five is simply not enough. I have at least 18 friends who'd like access to my house.

[Niwashi]

I think the biggest mark against housing relinquishment is that it literally in and of itself solves no issue what so ever.

The nearest to "solving" that it comes is the fact that it takes a terrible system that's guaranteed to grow continually worse, and turns it into a terrible system that will stay near its current level of terrible. Halting the progressive worsening of the system is far from a fix, but it's probably still necessary.


I just hope they implement it well. Currently I'm hoping that the reason they broke the implementation down into the stages that they did, with the house-moving feature coming before plot reclamations, is because house-moving means implementing a feature where all your house data is stored away as you relinquish one house, and then that data can be used in providing you a different house at minimal cost which would then still have all the stuff from your previous one.

That way, when they later add plot reclamation on inactive accounts, they'd already have the feature in place to store all the housing data so the player can get another house on their return. Essentially, someone whose house plot was taken back is treated as simply being at that intermediate step in the middle of a house move, except that they might stay at that intermediate step for a long time.

(I haven't actually heard any plans more detailed than the three stages Elim mentioned in post #2 above, so I have no particular reason for thinking this is the case beyond my own supposition and a bit of wishful thinking. It'd be nice if they would finally get at least one thing about housing done well.)

[Niwashi]

House sharing will help a little bit. It wont give access to ship building, but to everything else.

I actually haven't read an official article or dev post about house sharing. I should do that. I've only read second hand information. Someone posted that the max will be five people. I sure hope it isn't. Five is simply not enough. I have at least 18 friends who'd like access to my house.

What I'd like to know on the sharing feature is whether it's limited to people you can interact with in-game in real time, like Friend requests are. That limitation on your Friends list prevents friending your alts or being able to send moogle mail to them. What I really want house sharing for is to be able to use the same house for all my alts. They'd better make that possible.

[LaylaTsarra]

What I'd like to know on the sharing feature is whether it's limited to people you can interact with in-game in real time, like Friend requests are. That limitation on your Friends list prevents friending your alts or being able to send moogle mail to them. What I really want house sharing for is to be able to use the same house for all my alts. They'd better make that possible.

I have two alts and would love to share my house with them. Being able to use the mender, armoire, FC chest and so on would be really nice. I suspect that won't ben an option however. One can dream I suppose.