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  1. #11
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    Deminia's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Deminia Brellenwind
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I agree with what the others have said. The monsters pre-patch were off balance - we were all killing things up to 10 levels above us just to get decent skill points. Well, after this patch, forget that entire concept. The monsters levels have just been adjusted, and they didn't forget to adjust the experience points values to go along with that change. Killing a mob that is your own level, or even a few levels below your level, used to be lousy sp, but now you get very good exp from those same mobs.

    The same goes for leves - we used to have to bump up the difficulty to 5 stars just to get normal good sp. Now doing a leve with the monsters set to no higher than your own level yields a much more balanced amount of exp than before.

    Gear matters much more now - make sure you have gear appropriate for your level and class. The changes to gear have made many pieces useless to many classes even though you can still equip the items. They made it very clear which items will benefit you on your current class so it is easy to see if you need to upgrade/change gear.
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  2. #12
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    Valega Kazenoko
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    With 1 level 43 vs 3 level 46 I think the 3 higher level mobs should win. For a start, they should be stronger than you, hence the additional 3 levels, secondly you're outnumbered, giving them the advantage.

    I fail to see the issue here.

    Here's couple of things to try:

    1. Fight groups of mobs that are a lower level than you.
    2. Fight single mobs similar to your level.
    3. Fight groups of mobs with other players.

    If you want to solo, option 3 is out, but try options 1 or 2 and leave groups of higher level mobs to parties.
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  3. #13
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    Fufanu Nakamoto
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 41
    No, please keep making the game a challenging, fun, group oriented experience please. If I wanted to solo i'd play single player games.

    signed a very casual player.

    I have been playing since launch, and have a 43 ARC, 33 FSH, 31 Alchemist

    I LOVE the direction this game is going 1.19 ftw..
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    Last edited by Forbin; 10-06-2011 at 09:29 PM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whax View Post
    You guys are trying to kill/fight same mobs as before the patch, that not gonna work.
    THIS ^^^

    Seriously, do some research as to what has changed with the introduction of 1.19.
    Fight mobs that are at or just below your level to get the best ratio of XP:downtime.
    Trying to solo the same way you did pre-patch is not possible any more.

    Its always the same, SE alters the game and tells everyone what has changed, players complain without researching what has changed.
    I come to these forums to research things i haven't thought of, but all i ever see is wave upon wave or misinformed complain threads.
    It must be demoralizing for devs to see all this crap!
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  5. #15
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    Holy_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Holy Dragoon
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    just tried to kill 2 lvl 46 Toxic Flytraps....
    Died twice already. Impossible to do..
    And i don't think the dated bs has anything to do with this.
    Lv37 taking on a Lv46 mob. That is your problem. It has been said repeatedly that you should now be fighting mobs closer to your own rank, not 9 levels higher unless you are in a party.
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  6. #16
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    Gunso Gunso
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    Lv37 taking on a Lv46 mob. That is your problem. It has been said repeatedly that you should now be fighting mobs closer to your own rank, not 9 levels higher unless you are in a party.
    I will step in and say he is rank 43 not 37, lodestone confirms this, but the forum hasnt updated. but still. a 3 level gap and being outnumbered is too much.
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  7. #17
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    Holy Dragoon
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I stand corrected on the level gap, but the theory does apply. Fights are to be similar level, or even 1 level higher. Even at rank 50 you can have difficulty fighting rank 50 mobs solo if you are not careful. Most of the strongholds are only lvl 50-55 mobs, and a party can easily wipe in there.
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  8. #18
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    GreatLeviathan's Avatar
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    Excessum Leviathan
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Whax View Post
    I´m a heavy soloer and I don´t know which game your guys are playing?! I soloed as GLA, MRD, PUG and ARCH after patch, and its faster than before. First thing, read the notes, second, update your equipament, status matter now and keep your level near the mobs. I´m doing chain 3 easily for 670~ exp, getting almost 12-14k exp hour soloing with any class.

    You guys are trying to kill/fight same mobs as before the patch, that not gonna work.
    So that means the patch is wrong...
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  9. #19
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    GreatLeviathan's Avatar
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    Excessum Leviathan
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    Heres the issue.

    Right now a monster of equal level is an even match, this is how it should always be. Whats the point in showing the monster level if they aren't on level footing with you at the same level?

    So yeah, killing a monster 1 or 2 levels above you should be tougher.

    In your opening post, you aren't complaining about fighting a monster 3 levels higher then you (which in itself should be tough) you are complaining about fighting THREE of them. And now you are complaining about fighting TWO monsters that are 3 levels higher than you.

    Learn your limits, they are different from what they used to be and playing alone will not allow you to progress at the same speed as those that work together.
    Did you even play the game yet?
    Those monsters pop up when doing a quest.. duh.
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  10. #20
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    GreatLeviathan's Avatar
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    Excessum Leviathan
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    I agree with what the others have said. The monsters pre-patch were off balance - we were all killing things up to 10 levels above us just to get decent skill points. Well, after this patch, forget that entire concept. The monsters levels have just been adjusted, and they didn't forget to adjust the experience points values to go along with that change. Killing a mob that is your own level, or even a few levels below your level, used to be lousy sp, but now you get very good exp from those same mobs.

    The same goes for leves - we used to have to bump up the difficulty to 5 stars just to get normal good sp. Now doing a leve with the monsters set to no higher than your own level yields a much more balanced amount of exp than before.

    Gear matters much more now - make sure you have gear appropriate for your level and class. The changes to gear have made many pieces useless to many classes even though you can still equip the items. They made it very clear which items will benefit you on your current class so it is easy to see if you need to upgrade/change gear.
    I will try the gear but i guess i have to wait till people start making gear cause there is none for sale atm..
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