Heavensword 2* Red Scrip Crafting Rotation

[Katlyna]

So after doing some testing... I should probably adjust the 760 rotation to list casting inner quiet right after your first CZ. You loose one Flawless synthesis chance... but as it turns out you will max your CP unless you can gain some back. So you have to spend some CP to get to use your Flawless ToTs. If you don't do this you'll max CP after your first ToT (and only get 4 CP back). I'm still debating if you should take ToT or Innovation on Armorer. I think I would recommend Innovation at the minimum stats since ToTing during your flawless would be dangerous. While above 760 craftsman I would recommend ToT (and casting Innerquiet after your first CZ), and fishing a ToT out of your flawless.

Also this same rotation works for 1 star but you will end up getting to cast two unmodified hasty touches (substituted for the last two careful synths during your Waste not II). I'll upload a picture of this a little later.

[AnimaS]

woah... waste not and carefull II for all that progress imposing a harsh hasty necessity is pretty dangerous. I wouldn't even think of not firing off 2 rapids in these synths and using precise touch. Even if i have to drop innovation i'll use observe but i want my 11+1 stacks at least.

[Namikman]

@Katlyna there is a flaw in all your rotations with Maker's Mark and FT, you aren't getting the full benefits from the baiting of good procs that the opening provides. The only cp that is spent in your opening is on Maker's Marker and CZ, Leaving you at -6cp of your max after cz completes. This allows you to only get at most +6cp off the first ToT instead of +20 and no benefits from any ToT thereafter.

[Katlyna]

woah... waste not and carefull II for all that progress imposing a harsh hasty necessity is pretty dangerous. I wouldn't even think of not firing off 2 rapids in these synths and using precise touch. Even if i have to drop innovation i'll use observe but i want my 11+1 stacks at least.

Un-modified hasty touches are only when doing 1 star... and they're just "extra" filler for uneeded careful synths. For one or two star you get 10 SHII hasty touches and Byregot's under the effects of Innovate and Ingenuity II (which is equivalent of one hasty stack each). So in comparison to any other rotation out there right now you need one less inner quiet stack (I haven't seen one yet proposing Byregot's under Ingenuity II). In comparison to any rotation without Innovate you require two less inner quiet stacks.

Its because of this design (and requiring less inner quiet stacks) the overall risk to achieving HQ is higher. Its also the reason the synth is able to achieve 10421 quality without any starting HQ materials. As mentioned with only 1660 starting quality you can reach 100% HQ at 9 stacks. With 2000 starting quality you will still reach ~90% HQ at 8 stacks. So the buffer in this rotation is exceptionally high.

The only vices in my eyes of the MaMa Careful Synth approach are having to drop reclaim (I haven't used it in two months though so I have no issue there), Armorer choosing between ToT and Innovate, and not having innate extra CP for precise/basic. But in comparison to other rotations the overall progress stability and higher innate quality makes up for the last issue.

[Katlyna]

Here's a version using 843 craftsman and 400 base CP which I printed out for my friend. It was a good exploration for me to figure out high craftsman effects and early completion.



So please note high craftsmanship can cause early completion:
If you have 811 or more total craftsmanship you will complete this early if you succeed 14 Flawless synths.
If you have 847 or more total craftsmanship you will complete this early if you succeed 13 Flawless synths.
If you have 878 or more total craftsmanship you will complete this early if you succeed 12 Flawless synths.

In each of these cases you should cast hasty touch in place of the 5th careful synthesis. Also if you have 811 or more craftsmanship you should absolutely cast inner Quiet After your first Comfort Zone.

[Katlyna]

I just wrapped up crafting my Forgemaster Redingote with the new MaMa Careful Synth rotation I've switched to. Wow its dependable with lovely quality gains. I HQed all four Astral Oil from 0 quality. I then easily HQed all of the Astral silk very easily. Consequently my final synth had 2500 staring quality and was trivial to complete.

I had one "Bad" synth with four failed hasty touches... which still hit 100% quality because I was already starting at 1500 quality, I still was able to reach 8 stacks due to a single ToT proc during the FS phase, which was traded for a later precise (which is used in a good). So in practice you can hit 100% HQ with only 1500 starting quality and 8 stacks if your precise is traded near the end of the sequence.

Due to the length of the synth you almost certainly will end up with one spare ToT to trade for a precise/basic touch. Sometimes you'll end up with two, but it seemed uncommon (since you can't pickup more than one ToT during Flawless cycle, and you shouldn't ToT during Ingenuity or SHII cycles. You can pickup one ToT during the last hasty cycle (since there are only four there).

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Getting used to the rotation takes a bit but its just silly strong IMO, and super stable. I would recommend casting Inner Quiet after the first Comfort Zone once you reach base 760 Craftsman. Below this point you have to hit 11/14 or 12/14 Flawless (depending if you're at minimum stats or slightly above). Statically speaking the odds of failing more than three flawless is very low, but failing more than two can occur with some regularity. So you want to shoot to be allowed to fail three flawless noting that taking a ToT counts against that number.

Anyway let me know if you try the approach out and enjoy it. I may see about trying to get a video showing some synths with it and some of the more dynamic choices you would make.

[PROBOUND]

Also as show below this approach scales with your gear. I recommend HQ Baked Onion Soup for this approach since it scales directly with Craftsman and CP. You can attempt this rotation successfully with the bare minimum melds just reaching 2 star requirements. Anyway let me know what you think.

Thanks for the hard work Kat! Question regarding this statement above. You mention Craftmanship scaling so i just wanted to clarify what you meant. Does the Careful Synthesis (low cp) approach require the use of Baked Onion soup (Does it require 746 Craft?)? Or can we use Seafood Stew, effectively keeping craftmanship at the minimum (718) in favor of more control?

Gratz on the Redingote! Did you use the Low CP or Max CP variation?

P.S. Look forward to that video your workin on

[Katlyna]

Thanks for the hard work Kat! Question regarding this statement above. You mention Craftmanship scaling so i just wanted to clarify what you meant. Does the Careful Synthesis (low cp) approach require the use of Baked Onion soup (Does it require 746 Craft?)? Or can we use Seafood Stew, effectively keeping craftmanship at the minimum (718) in favor of more control?

Good question Butta Stackz and thanks for the feedback! I've clarified the front page requirement statements. The required stats including food buff is now at the front in italics so for example:

MaMa Careful Synth (Low CP) - Required stats 746 Craftsman and 446 CP (Character base stats 718 Craftsman, 398 CP and HQ Baked Onion Soup)

So if you wanted to do the Low CP minimum craftsman variant with say HQ Seafood, your character would need 746 Craftsman and 396 CP. So if you have the minimum craftsman you will need to use Baked Onion Soup. Personally I wouldn't switch to HQ Seafood until your character has a base 788 Craftsmanship, at which point you can complete the rotation comfortably with 10 out of 13 Flawless Synths. This is one of the really slick parts of the approach. You can use the rotation at the base required 718 craftsman and with only 398 CP assuming you use HQ Baked Onion Soup... I have the melds listed for that somewhere and they are stupid cheep, not a single IV overmeld required to reach those stats. On the other hand as you pickup your accessories, mainhand, offhand etc; the extra craftsmanship allows you to miss more flawless synths, push inner quiet forward (allowing a ToT to be taken up front), and eventually comfortably swap to HQ Seafood.

Gratz on the Redingote! Did you use the Low CP or Max CP variation?

Right now I'm using the last picture in my first post Max CP (788 Craftsman and 467 CP). I made all of my two star accessories before anything else. Which I like since the extra CP allows for an extra innovate/precise/basic etc.

[LeviXx]

Crossclass skills required:
Comfort Zone (ALC 50), Steady Hand II (CUL 37), Careful Synthesis II (WVR 50), Hasty Touch (CUL 15), Ingenuity II (BSM 50), Flawless Synthesis (Alchemist 37) and Makers Mark (ALC 54)

I think there's a typo here? Makers Mark is 54 GSM, not ALC and I think you're missing Waste Not II from the list. Interesting rotation Kat, can't wait to try it out once I finish my melds.

[Katlyna]

Thanks Levi, I fixed it! That's the kind of silly documentation mistake I make super late at night! Also I have copied my recommended entry melds into this post for reference.