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    Mature Rudlum
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    I tested your low Cp MaMa combo with polished adamantite file (2900k hq base) and it worked just fine. But I swapped waste 2 for waste 1. I had to get at least 8 or 9 IQ stacks before moving into second rotation for durability ( I do it the other way round ) and I should be able to push at least 1 or 2 extra IQ stacks too. All Rng tbh had a couple of goods to get precise touch .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I tested your low Cp MaMa combo with polished adamantite file (2900k hq base) and it worked just fine. But I swapped waste 2 for waste 1. I had to get at least 8 or 9 IQ stacks before moving into second rotation for durability ( I do it the other way round ) and I should be able to push at least 1 or 2 extra IQ stacks too. All Rng tbh had a couple of goods to get precise touch .
    The high CP version looks to be fine since you'd be expecting an average of 9 IQ stacks without considering precise touch and have enough CP for both innovation and ingenuity 2. That would give you 100% starting from 1700 quality or so.

    The low CP version is riskier since you need to rely on good procs showing up at the right times to be able to gain the CP for innovation or precise touch. Craftsmanship is also too low to risk using tricks of the trade during the flawless synth phase until maybe near the end (assuming that all required flawless synths of landed by then). In general though, I'd still expect decent results, but probably a lower rate of 100% crafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_14 View Post
    The low CP version is riskier since you need to rely on good procs showing up at the right times to be able to gain the CP for innovation or precise touch.
    While reviewing what you said and after having executing the rotation a number of times I just found a way to tweak it to reduce the requirements even lower on the flawless synth. The only downside being you can't ToT during the last Hasty phase. So this may be an upgrade at lower stats and a downgraded approach at much higher stats. It also completely removes chance of early completion.
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    Here is the modified Low version with the adjustment, note they get to cast Inner Quiet early, and can miss or ToT up to three Flawless synth:
    Kat's - MaMa Careful Synth (Low CP, Extra Progress) - Required stats 746 Craftsman and 446 CP (Character base stats 718 Craftsman, 398 CP and HQ Baked Onion Soup):



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    As you can see you can actually split the last hasty sequence with Mend II, and then push the careful synthesis without Ing II onto the end of the synth. This gives you even more progress overall lowering the number of required flawless synthesis. This has two disadvantages being:
    1) You cannot grab one safe ToT during last Hasty phase.
    2) If you want to Innovate Byregot's then you MUST MUST MUST end with SHII > Hasty > Innovate > Ingenuity II > Greater Strides > Byregot's > Careful > Careful. If your Hasty an Innovate follows after Ingenuity in this variation you will blow up your item!!! (since your last careful synthesis will loose the Ing II buff)
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 09-13-2015 at 05:04 PM.

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    I'll have to think if I would adjust the higher Craftsman/CP rotations based off this knowledge. So lets call the above MaMa Careful Synth with Extra Progress. Where as the others would be "Normal Progress". So far I've fallen short on my Flawless synth successes once (where I needed 10 successful... I ToTed and failed three) and this was rather painful. Likewise I have moved away from using Innovation in the rotation. Generally its just better to use the reserve 18 CP for a precise touch. So at 467 CP with food if you ToT once during flawless, you would get two precise touches which is wonderful (but no innovation). Likewise you get to keep reclaim. I would miss the ToT during the last hasty touch sequence... I've ToTed there quite a number of times.

    So I suspect the above modified approach would probably be better if you're under say under 788 craftsman. Where as if you're 789 or higher you would likely find the regular sequence slightly less complicated with one more section where ToTs can be gathered.
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