Heavensword 2* Red Scrip Crafting Rotation

[AnimaS]

3 rapid Ingenuity 1 you will find gets to around 1100 without flawless MaMa , been doing this for a while MaMa setup for procs and ing/rapid x2 or 3. depending on progress you may do with another carefull II and one more will finish. By the time you mend II you may have 7 stacks for precise touches via mama etc, and near full progress. I only refresh CZ once.

i generally have 440 to 449 cp

MAMA
CZ
IQ (use TOT)
STII
Flawless till good (precise on good) repeat
refresh CZ
STII
INGENUITY
RAPID
RAPID
rest are hasty or precise

[refreshing CZ here can help or be dangerous be aware of procs, if you have 10 stacks do not refresh it! ]
10 MMII

what is left?
carefull II if needed ... if job is ltw or has wastenot spots you may use it...

generally you can hasty to 30 basic and finish it, or if you refreshed CZ and used tricks you can MMI , or depending on the job other skills can be available.

[Buckles]

Have 777 craft, 703 control and 386CP unbuffed. Used HQ seafood stew and managed to HQ one of my ingots today. Then RNG came along and turned my 2nd ingot SQ at 76% quality having botched 4 of the HTs.

I hate that after weeks of gearing red scrips, excessive melds, best foods and all that time gathering my own materials I still rely so much on rng for these crafts.

I decided today to retire from crafting and just gather scrips for whatever thing comes after this god awful, painful, near-rewardless grind they put in place.

[scarebearz]

Looks pretty risky to me tbh sorry

[AnimaS]

Looks pretty risky to me tbh sorry

perhaps to one who has not used it, I agree, but I have 100% success rate

[Katlyna]

The key risk difference between this and the best documented Makers Mark/Flawless rotation is roughly as follows:
Maker's Mark: Must succeed Flawless Synthesis 6/8 with 10% chance to fail each.
Muscle Memory: Must succeed Rapid Synthesis 2/4 with 20% chance to fail each. (Each failed attempt beyond the first removing a hasty attempt)

Now according to a Monte Carlo Sim of the above progress we net roughly the following progress success rates:
Maker's Mark 6/8: 95%
Muscle Memory 2/4: 97%
Muscle Memory 2/3: 90%

Now as you can see the success rate is actually slightly higher to succeed 2/4 Rapid Synthesis in comparison to 6/8 Flawless Synthesis. On the other hand the success rate is slightly lower to succeed 2/3 Rapid Synthesis in comparison to 6/8 Flawless Synthesis. So overall the risk between both is very similar. The key difference as noted at the top each failed Rapid Synthesis removed one hasty attempt (this is not true for failed flawless Synthesis).

Now for the important difference, the hasty/basic touch availability. We can compare both rotations at least 466 CP:
Maker's Mark: 10 Hasty attempts, 1 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/2: 8 Hasty attempts and 2 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/3: 7 Hasty attempts and 2 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/4: 6 Hasty attempts and 2 Basic/Precise Touch

For Muscle Memory, assuming you can use precise touch you have the chance to reach 11 stacks even when attempting 4 rapids. Now as noted in my updated post, there is a key advantage in the Muscle memory rotation if you can consume a ToT during your first CZ and you have at least 463 CP with food. Specifically being you jump up to two additional precise touches.

If we compare makers vs muscle memory with an early ToT we get the following comparison:
Maker's Mark: 9 Hasty attempts, 2 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/2: 6 Hasty attempts and 4 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/3: 5 Hasty attempts and 4 Basic/Precise Touch
Muscle Memory 2/4: 4 Hasty attempts and 4 Basic/Precise Touch

This is where the two rotations become very different in terms of success. One early ToT in the proposed muscle memory rotation (with 463 CP) allows the use of 4 Basic/Precise touch, removing a large portion of the hasty RNG. Personally I find both rotations to appear statically close on paper. Both have some advantages and disadvantages IMO.

Best Maker's Mark Rotation I'm aware of for reference:

[scarebearz]

The key risk difference between this and the best documented Makers Mark/Flawless rotation is roughly as follows:

Your numbers themselves may be correct for your Memory vs "the best documented Makers Mark/Flawless rotation", but you are missing a huge factor.

Should things go bad and you miss the ideal number of flawless/rapid, the Mark version is far easier to recover from.

With yours, your losing the progress from a Rapid under Ing 2, thats a heck of a lot, if your 1/2/3 Flawless short, you only need to change the cs2 into stand synth or add another cs2 step, as flawless at the end of the day, is only 40 progress. Your also using a ton of dura with failed rapid synth, vs none lost from failed Flawless.

The RNG is there, sooner or later things will go bad and failing 3 out of 4 80% skills is pretty darn common (look how often it happens with hasty, same thing).

I've made a fair few 2* items and having a viable method of recovery is very useful in changing the tide of a bad RNG craft.

In all honesty I'd not recommend anyone using semi-fixed "rotations" for 2* (unless someone is not very good at crafting, but badly want to make their own 2* anyway, many these rotations are certainly a good starting point for some), I think it's much better to be adaptive while crafting these based on the RNG/procs you are given.

[Katlyna]

Should things go bad and you miss the ideal number of flawless/rapid, the Mark version is far easier to recover from.

No I haven't missed that. Your statement is accurate. If you miss 3 rapids you will have a rougher time recovering. You are exaggerating on how frequently this occurs though. Dry patches occur period though; bad rng is bad rng and can wreck the best approach whatever that might be. But as stated in my post there are benefits and detriments to both rotations.

It would be more accurate to state using a "Fixed" rotation too tightly can dampen the potential of more complex dynamic choices. None the less all crafters benefit from having an HQ completion approach to start from which uses the crafters stats/skills to best work to their advantage. Anyone crafting 2* items has an "approach" to how they complete their items. That is all this is, an approach to completely 2* items.

[scarebearz]

You are exaggerating on how frequently this occurs though.

If you use a "hasty" method of crafting frequently, surely you should know how common failing 3 out of 4 hasty touch is? They are the same % success rate, so it's the same frequency.

[AnimaS]

FYI the proper food is Baked Onion Soup always

[Katlyna]

FYI the proper food is Baked Onion Soup always

This would depend on the craftsman breakpoint for a rotation (I know you know this ;-) Personally I'm still using Baked Onion Soup simply because it was so easy to make a horde of. But I'm eyeballing making some HQ Seafood Stew now that I can clearly see I don't need more than 714 craftsmanship for my rotation. That extra Control adds up quick!