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    Quote Originally Posted by iambanana View Post
    thanks for the rotation kat! i success making i170 ring, spinning wheel and redingnote all HQ (mats and equip) with your rotation
    Awesome me and the Nana's are super happy for you! Also I love your name it made me laugh and smile ;-)
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Very nice rotations.
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Hi Kat,

    OK, I finally got around to trying out your Low CP Rotation on the 1st page:

    * It's amazing! I got my HQ Off Hand i170 thanks to you.

    You are right, it's a very steady, easy-to-follow method. Major thanks!


    * As a follow-up, if I ever get some bad RNG in this rotation, what is my recourse? On some jobs we won't have Reclaim (I didn't have space for it on BSM). I guess just NQ then?

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by Kiara; 09-19-2015 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Is it one of those Catch-22 situations where I gotta spend the money and meld some CP on the i150 Main / Off-Hand, just to hit 398, to then craft my Main/Off Hand Tools that will replace them immediately? Sigh.
    Yeah pretty much. This is why I made all my 2 star accessories first, because CP was so valuable in doing rotations. Which would stem on my advice. Meld what you have to on as few early mainhand/offhands as you need (avoid IV materia) and go for those accessories and main/offhand replacements and somewhere in-between your chests for fun and flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Yeah pretty much. This is why I made all my 2 star accessories first, because CP was so valuable in doing rotations. Which would stem on my advice. Meld what you have to on as few early mainhand/offhands as you need (avoid IV materia) and go for those accessories and main/offhand replacements and somewhere in-between your chests for fun and flavor.
    Thanks for the advice!

    So your recommend now is new i170 Off-Hand > Accessories > Then random Body Pieces until we get more clarity on Tier V / real new recipes? Thanks.

    Also, if I ever get some bad RNG in your Low CP rotation, what is my recourse? On some jobs we won't have Reclaim (I didn't have space for it on BSM). I guess just NQ then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    So your recommend now is new i170 Off-Hand > Accessories > Then random Body Pieces until we get more clarity on Tier V / real new recipes? Thanks.

    Also, if I ever get some bad RNG in your Low CP rotation, what is my recourse? On some jobs we won't have Reclaim (I didn't have space for it on BSM)
    I need to update the guide today and recommend your last skill choice as ToT > Reclaim > Innovate. So on everyone except armor smith you would get Reclaim (who would have to drop ToT in order to take it). Innovate is nice to have in the rotation, but a second precise/basic is just as good IMO after lots of testing.
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    i just stuck materia on the main/offhands of the important ones....
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Hi Kat,

    One last thing: I got your advice earlier, about where to possibly (safely) take a Tricks of the Trade, or a Precise Touch.

    But during one of those "safe spots" you recommended, if I take a Tricks of the Trade, what do I do with the extra CP? (sorry for such an obvious question, I wasn't sure)

    Do I then convert the very last Hasty Touch into a Basic Touch or something?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Hi Kat ... if I take a Tricks of the Trade, what do I do with the extra CP? (sorry for such an obvious question, I wasn't sure)
    Do I then convert the very last Hasty Touch into a Basic Touch or something?
    Thanks!
    I'm not Kat, but generally, I will use extra CP to convert a Hasty Touch (HT) into a Precise Touch (PT) if a Good or Excellent (G/E) condition occurs when an HT is scheduled to be performed. But if you get near the end, you can use it to convert the HT to a Basic Touch (BT) regardless of whether you get a well-timed G/E proc.

    Each ToT allows approximately one conversion of an HT to a PT or BT.

    Some rotations allow you to add an Innovation between the Great Strides and the Byregot's Blessing if you have some extra CP, but this has to be carefully done to not disrupt the timing of any Steady Hand or Innovation that may be active at the time.
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    What Silverbane said. And I need to upload a video. But like a total nubbin, I hold my left hand out and hold one finger up for each spare 18 cp I have (I drop innovate 95% of the time so at 420 base CP + HQ Baked Onion Soup) I start with 18 spare CP. For one ToT I get during FS, I count a second finger. Any ToTs I gather outside SHII and IngII I count one more finger (I almost never get more than three fingers or 18x3=54 extra CP).

    I will then trade these in AS SOON AS POSSIBLE for precise touches in place of hasty touches. Once I've traded them all in (and aren't holding any fingers up) I know to not to pull any monkey business and just follow the rotation. Never consume more precise touches than you can... otherwise you'll have to do wonky stuff to finish.

    Feel free to do this in your head =) But that's pretty much all you should do with your extra CP (or a final Innovate as shown in the pictures). At this point I think a successful precise touch is better than innovate, innovate is better than basic touch, and basic touch is your last resort for spending extra CP.
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