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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    BTW, I performed an experiment to determine the odds of getting a Good or Excellent on a Level 58 35 durability craft*.
    I then did an experiment on a 2-Star Level 60 70 durability craft.

    I ran my two-part Adamantite Nugget macro 37 times, creating 665 opportunities for a Good/Exc proc.
    I counted 94 Good or Excellent conditions.
    So the odds of getting a Good/EXC on L58 d35 crafts seems to be about 1 in 7 (14.11%).

    New info:
    I did a run of 8 Adamantite Ingots (2* L60). This created 336 opportunities for a Good/Exc proc.
    I counted 29 Good or Excellent conditions.
    So the odds of getting a Good/EXC on L60 d70 crafts seems to be about 1 in 11.5 (8.5%).

    (*my level 60, Cr 773, Control 692 )
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 09-20-2015 at 01:08 PM. Reason: Update, more info

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    Mature Rudlum
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    Kat I wanna post my rotation using the simulator but somehow it's not allowing me to swap from default alch to any other class. Do you do it using a pc or a mobile phone?
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Hi Kat and All,

    Thanks so much for the hard work and posting this rotation. I'm going to be trying soon (first attempt!), but to clarify:

    In your Low CP rotation, I don't see any icons for Precise Touch or Tricks of the Trade.

    Apologies if it was obvious, but can you clarify if I should bother taking any of Precise Touches or Tricks of the Trade during Good procs? And when?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Kat I wanna post my rotation using the simulator but somehow it's not allowing me to swap from default alch to any other class. Do you do it using a pc or a mobile phone?
    I use a PC do to it. Also you could do it with the Alch class you would just select the 2 star Alchy recipe to work with!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    In your Low CP rotation, I don't see any icons for Precise Touch or Tricks of the Trade.
    You should look for one (and only one) ToT during the flawless sequence and if you can pickup one. You can ToT once during the last Hasty sequence. You may ToT outside SHII and Ingenuity II. Otherwise only use Precise touch IF you have consumed extra ToTs. Otherwise stick to the rotation!
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    Still no luck with simulator. But I wanna share my bit : pretty basic.

    *You must hit at least 7or8 inner quiets before moving into durability rotation. Craftsmanship 718 Control 695 Cp 435 (with food)

    MaMa
    Cz (allowed to hit 1 ToT if available)
    Fs
    Cz (use ToT if available)
    IQ (use ToT if available)
    SH2 (use ToT if available)
    Waste not
    Hasty touch x 4
    Cz
    SH2
    Hasty touch x3
    ( by now you should be 10/70 with a good stack of IQ if is less than 7 reclaim)
    MM2
    IN2
    CS2 x 4 (ideally) (30/70)
    SH2
    Hasty touch (30/70) or CS2 (20/70 only if needed to finish it with one touch)
    *--- this is the win or lose zone--*
    (20/70) If you have enough IQ stack just finish it with GS and BB.if you feel CP reach you can always go for MM or waste not. (Remember save cp for BB)
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    Last edited by Mature; 09-16-2015 at 12:02 AM.

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    Just a note:

    I always start with Quality cause those IQ stacks are my guarantee on getting HQ at the end of the craft. I personally secure between 9 or 10 before moving to durability. Why do I use waste not instead of waste not 2 like everyone else? Cause I save extra cp just in case plus having those IQ stacks that I'm aiming for I wouldn't need wasting that extra 30cp?

    Hope this helps, just wanted to share the way I do it. I mostly use specialists stuff like www and all that malarkey and it's a cp feast for me but it's all a bit too much RnG Jesus. Other thing I usually start with all HQ. Items apart from the red scrip ones like purify coke etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I usually start with all HQ. Items apart from the red scrip ones like purify coke etc
    For my first 2-Star crafts, I acquired one batch of HQ purified coke and three batches of NQ purified coke, and similarly for the dryad sap. I then used a 4NQ to 1HQ ratio of these mats for my 2-Star mat crafting. The extra initial quality is pretty substantial, and may mean the difference between the dreaded 98% chance and the desired 100%.

    But with the HQ mats costing 3 red crafting scrip each (plus super-rare Favor mats) it's not something you want to do a lot of. Now that my stats are better, I feel less need for HQ red scrip mats. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Just a note: I always start with Quality cause those IQ stacks are my guarantee on getting HQ at the end of the craft.
    I don't really care whether I do quality or progress first, but there are now powerful progress skills that have to be done right at the start (e.g. MusMem, Maker's Mark). I have a strong urge to *finish* with substantial progress though, because it's very effective if you can perform a couple of CSII and a BBless under a single Ingenuity II. That said, it isn't working out that way for me at present.
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    thanks for the rotation kat! i success making i170 ring, spinning wheel and redingnote all HQ (mats and equip) with your rotation
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