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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    well that's the thing, crafted gear is purposely lower ilv than end-game, to make end-game stuff, desirable.
    This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.

    What is needed is equal parity between them - and this can be game balanced by requiring end-game content to craft the top items, and crafting to turn the top end-game loot drops into useable gear.
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    I'd just prefer if it could make materia, including the demi materia, would take a lot of the RNG out of the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyendryyl View Post
    Well, the balancing...yea, thats off. Like I said, just an idea to lessen the load of materia, and allow crafted gear to compete with "end game" gear more effectively. Any ideas on how it could be done?
    The devs have already said multiple times they don't want crafted gear to compete with endgame gear though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.
    It's not a design flaw, though. It's working exactly as they intended it to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    It's not a design flaw, though. It's working exactly as they intended it to.
    Its a deliberate decision based upon a flawed premise. Yes, it is functioning as they intended - though if they are going to kill crafting through irrelevancy, why bother adding new nodes, new recipes, new crafted gear?

    Its an inherent design flaw when one aspect of your creation is in direct contradiction to another aspect, or direction. Here, you have on the one hand the fact that crafting is in the game, and there are several systems to support this (Gathering is a big one, but also the Marketboard). On the other hand is the general irrelevancy of star level crafting currently in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Its a deliberate decision based upon a flawed premise. Yes, it is functioning as they intended - though if they are going to kill crafting through irrelevancy, why bother adding new nodes, new recipes, new crafted gear?

    Its an inherent design flaw when one aspect of your creation is in direct contradiction to another aspect, or direction. Here, you have on the one hand the fact that crafting is in the game, and there are several systems to support this (Gathering is a big one, but also the Marketboard). On the other hand is the general irrelevancy of star level crafting currently in game.
    I don't see how separating raid gear and crafted gear is a flawed premise. If you can craft the best gear in the game, there's less incentive to raid. Yes they still have the challenge behind them, but it makes it very possible for someone that just has a lot of gil to be better geared than the game's top-notch raiders. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me at all. If you want the best gear that the game has to offer, go raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I don't see how separating raid gear and crafted gear is a flawed premise. If you can craft the best gear in the game, there's less incentive to raid. Yes they still have the challenge behind them, but it makes it very possible for someone that just has a lot of gil to be better geared than the game's top-notch raiders. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me at all. If you want the best gear that the game has to offer, go raid.
    There isn't enough content in the game for it. We have barely anything to do besides 2 zones or raid, 2 zones which never change and are not dynamic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    There isn't enough content in the game for it. We have barely anything to do besides 2 zones or raid, 2 zones which never change and are not dynamic.
    That doesn't even make sense. I say go raid. You say "but our only content is 2 dungeons and a raid!"

    Even if that was the truth, my response would still be: if you want the best gear, then go raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.

    What is needed is equal parity between them - and this can be game balanced by requiring end-game content to craft the top items, and crafting to turn the top end-game loot drops into useable gear.
    It's not a flaw, it's the intended direction of the design. And value is 100% subjective.
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