New crafting class!?

[Daralii]

+60 of a stat would effectively be worth another piece of gear. I have to think that would be incredibly broken.

[Anyendryyl]

+60 of a stat would effectively be worth another piece of gear. I have to think that would be incredibly broken.

Well, the balancing...yea, thats off. Like I said, just an idea to lessen the load of materia, and allow crafted gear to compete with "end game" gear more effectively. Any ideas on how it could be done?

[Radacci]

+60 of a stat would effectively be worth another piece of gear. I have to think that would be incredibly broken.

relic weps had total cap? so i don't think an item like that, would do much.

Well, the balancing...yea, thats off. Like I said, just an idea to lessen the load of materia, and allow crafted gear to compete with "end game" gear more effectively. Any ideas on how it could be done?

well that's the thing, crafted gear is purposely lower ilv than end-game, to make end-game stuff, desirable.
and if crafted stuff was that good...well you wouldn't be able to afford it, so the only way to get it, is if you capped out a crafter, yourself...cause you know, greed.
crafted stuff is usually a bit of a nerfed alternative, to tome gear - occasionally it has better stats, so people prefer it over tome gear. so....i'd guess they might add ilv 180-190 crafted stuff, when they uncap alexander NM.
mostly it's just vanity stuff, that sell for loads of gil...cause apparently people will spend any kind of gil, for vanity stuff.

[Makeda]

well that's the thing, crafted gear is purposely lower ilv than end-game, to make end-game stuff, desirable.

This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.

What is needed is equal parity between them - and this can be game balanced by requiring end-game content to craft the top items, and crafting to turn the top end-game loot drops into useable gear.

[Gralna]

I'd just prefer if it could make materia, including the demi materia, would take a lot of the RNG out of the system.

[Ashkendor]

Well, the balancing...yea, thats off. Like I said, just an idea to lessen the load of materia, and allow crafted gear to compete with "end game" gear more effectively. Any ideas on how it could be done?

The devs have already said multiple times they don't want crafted gear to compete with endgame gear though.

This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.

It's not a design flaw, though. It's working exactly as they intended it to.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

It's not a design flaw, though. It's working exactly as they intended it to.

Its a deliberate decision based upon a flawed premise. Yes, it is functioning as they intended - though if they are going to kill crafting through irrelevancy, why bother adding new nodes, new recipes, new crafted gear?

Its an inherent design flaw when one aspect of your creation is in direct contradiction to another aspect, or direction. Here, you have on the one hand the fact that crafting is in the game, and there are several systems to support this (Gathering is a big one, but also the Marketboard). On the other hand is the general irrelevancy of star level crafting currently in game.

[Ashkendor]

Its a deliberate decision based upon a flawed premise. Yes, it is functioning as they intended - though if they are going to kill crafting through irrelevancy, why bother adding new nodes, new recipes, new crafted gear?

Its an inherent design flaw when one aspect of your creation is in direct contradiction to another aspect, or direction. Here, you have on the one hand the fact that crafting is in the game, and there are several systems to support this (Gathering is a big one, but also the Marketboard). On the other hand is the general irrelevancy of star level crafting currently in game.

I don't see how separating raid gear and crafted gear is a flawed premise. If you can craft the best gear in the game, there's less incentive to raid. Yes they still have the challenge behind them, but it makes it very possible for someone that just has a lot of gil to be better geared than the game's top-notch raiders. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me at all. If you want the best gear that the game has to offer, go raid.

[Dante_V]

This is a design flaw though that makes crafting valueless.

What is needed is equal parity between them - and this can be game balanced by requiring end-game content to craft the top items, and crafting to turn the top end-game loot drops into useable gear.

It's not a flaw, it's the intended direction of the design. And value is 100% subjective.

[Anyendryyl]

I understand crafted gear is lower ilevel to that of end game gear. But that essentially makes crafting useless at end game. Yea, we get to meld accessories for our warriors, but that's about it.This class idea was my thoughts (preliminary and rough admittedly) on how we could incorporate adding another crafting class (too make the crafters happy) And still help make crafted gear in general more viable. If people have ideas I'd love to hear it, like I said...just a thought.