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  1. #1
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    A Simple Lack of Fun

    I really don't want this to turn out as a full-blown rant, but I suppose some things can't be helped. I started this game at release, dealt with and accepted every negative aspect within at that time, and every one since. But, I feel that this patch is the breaking point.

    Before Oct. 4th, I really felt I had the option of doing things my way, solo, without the help of anyone else if necessary. Given, this was a more gradual approach in progression opposed to grouping up, still, I could solo efficiently for acceptable losses. Always before leaving Ul'dah I would attempt to form a group to grind with. I would put up recruit, shout for 30min or so, ask every one of my five linkshells, send tells to every person online in my friend's list of 140 people. Fifty percent of the time I could get people to go out. The remainder was all solo.

    Come October 5th, I can no longer solo for anything near worthwhile EXP, and I feel it directly related to the linking system. My targets are always ranks above me because I enjoy the challenge of seeing what I can chain for the best EXP. If I try this today, what I get is a large, compact grouping of target mobs who range in level from 25, which is also my own, to level 29. I can defeat the Lv29's with difficulty, but certainly not when they are suddenly accompanied by 4 others.

    I heard someone in my LS say that the new system now requires skill and planning, and the linking mobs make it more difficult. I chuckled, because at that moment I was in a successful group killing crabs in La Noscea, and found it to be more hack-and-slash than ever before. Mobs all over the place, damage all over the place, and most importantly, enmity flying everywhere. No skill, no difficulty, just spam.

    It makes me wonder why we have all of these abilities that we gain as our character progresses if we only need AoE weaponskills, Curaga and Siphon MP.
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Balmung
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    Soloing used to be very challenging, but then the devs decided to make the game like this.
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    Banjomissen Mismis
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    Looks like SE want's to make FFXI-II. A shame really seeing how MMO's evolved since FFXI.

    MMO's should atleast have solo content when leveling. I've tested solo leveling in the early and mid 20's since the patch and you can still make 12k EXP / hr. Compared to group EXP it's crap! (heard stories about 20k + exp in less than 30min - and even 100k exp / hr in the mid 40's).
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 82
    MMO's should atleast have solo content when leveling. I've tested solo leveling in the early and mid 20's since the patch and you can still make 12k EXP / hr.
    So you have your solo content and its worse than group EXP as it should be.

    What's the problem here? You people amaze me sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    So you have your solo content and its worse than group EXP as it should be.

    What's the problem here? You people amaze me sometimes.
    Supposing you didn't read the OP?
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    yukikaze_yanagi's Avatar
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    Soloing used to be very challenging ? LOWUT ?
    Now it's challenging, before was a joke.

    Second, crabs don't have any ws. Try raptors for a once. Without nobody sleeping and tanking it's a wipefest
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  7. #7
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    Malakhim's Avatar
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    Eisen Marduk
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by TunaTime View Post
    ...MMO's should atleast have solo content when leveling.
    Just because you could solo all the way to end-game in WoW, which took the MMO part out of the MMORPG, hardly means every other game should do it too.
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    Agilo Sur
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 23
    I think we need a world chat so people don't have to stand in Uldah to get parties. And/or, institute the party search feature from FFXI. If partying is the way to go, let's facilitate it. And I think that is the plan, just need to wait a bit.
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    Naethyn Stormreaver
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    You're doing it wrong. If you want to solo AND get exp chains you need to be killing things equal to you or +1 level to you. If you want to challenge yourself and take down something higher level cool, just don't expect to be exp'ing well off of it like pre patch.

    Learn to adapt to the changes instead of stubbornly trying to stick to old methods that clearly don't work or arent fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive Spellrifter
    /looks at check list.
    1) Patch Implemented............................CHECK
    2) Threads complaining about changes......CHECK
    3) ....
    4) Players Adapt

    Everything is advancing as normal

  10. #10
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    So let me get this straight...

    An MMO, also known as a Massively Multiplayer Online game, has to have solo content? Really? Then why the hell are you in an MMO to begin with? Seriously, people lost the meaning of MMO because of how they were evolved, and that evolution that some dude mentioned is really not a good thing...
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