My problems with AST buffs.

[winsock]

Viable? Did you happen to read the astro in savage thread?
Constantly people switching over because they didn't want to be a bigger burden to the group.
That is not viable, that is forcing your whole group to play on savage hard mode or some nonsense.

You may need to lookup the definition of viable.

[Assirra]

You may need to lookup the definition of viable.

See, you can throw definition as much as you want.
The fact is words are getting used differently then their definition.
Sure it in the literal meaning of the word it is viable, as in barely survivable.
In the game however, like i said before, it is not unless you want to make it your group harder then it already is.

[winsock]

See, you can throw definition as much as you want.
The fact is [I use] words are getting used differently then their definition.

^ fixed that for you.

Saying "In 3.05, it was viable to use AST in Alexander Savage" is accurate. You not understanding the definition of the word doesn't make it any more or less true.

Back to my original point/post:
The increased difficulty on the healing end was not a problem in and of itself. The problem was there was very little, if any, tradeoff for the increased healing difficulty. It was an inferior option and there was little reason to take it.

As the potency gap becomes narrower, AST is borderline becoming a WHM + cards + disable + better instaheals + CU mitigation. It's still early, but there is legitimate concern in WHM becoming the inferior option, in favor of AST a.k.a. WHM rev2.

[RichardButte]

Saying "In 3.05, it was viable to use AST in Alexander Savage" is accurate. You not understanding the definition of the word doesn't make it any more or less true.

"Viable" in an MMO doesn't mean "it's within the realm of possibility to use this class in an encounter".

It's technically "viable" to run savage with an entire player down, if the rest of the group is insanely-well geared, but you wouldn't do that because it'd be idiocy to not fill up all of the raid slots.

No, "viable" means they compete for raid spots with the other classes of that type, which AST certainly did NOT.

[winsock]

"Viable" in an MMO doesn't mean "it's within the realm of possibility to use this class in an encounter".

It's technically "viable" to run savage with an entire player down, if the rest of the group is insanely-well geared, but you wouldn't do that because it'd be idiocy to not fill up all of the raid slots.

No, "viable" means they compete for raid spots with the other classes of that type, which AST certainly did NOT.

Viable means feasible. At the end of the day though, you would run it with 7 people if it was viable/feasible and there was something in play that made it worth the effort.

[Assirra]

Viable means feasible. At the end of the day though, you would run it with 7 people if it was viable/feasible and there was something in play that made it worth the effort.

Hello hello?

Is the plate stuck? I keep hearing the same nonsense over and over instead of actually arguing about the topic.