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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
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    That's good and all, but it's really not like they would be punishing you.
    It's not like you need to skip a part of the relic quest, it's designed to be done all the way.
    And you'll have your bow for if you want to do BRD.

    I'm in the exact same position as you, except with a different zeta.
    But having the relic be tradeable to help skip for the relic of a different Job is probably not going to happen, nor should it.
    It's only really applicable for the new Jobs, but that comes with the territory of going into a Job that doesn't have a relic history.

    It would be nice if you can trade it in, don't get me wrong.
    But I doubt they'll do that considering there's been no relic catch-up between Jobs before.
    I also don't think it makes sense giving a bow as a base for a great sword, and what you did on your BRD shouldn't really mean you deserve something as a DRK.

    Regardless, it's just doing the whole new relic quest.
    I think we can all assume that the new relic quest won't take as long as making a zeta from scratch.
    So the new Jobs didn't really need an option that would've taken longer than than what they're actually skipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
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    Ok, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.

    Yes, using a Bow to make a Greatsword makes no sense at all - agreed.
    I don't feel like I deserve anything on my DRK. I already said, had they introduced a 2.0 relic for DRK I would have pursued it.

    They didn't. Regardless of whether or not I "need" to skip anything, I did the pre-requisite work required to receive it. I finished a Zeta. You can't say "there's been no relic catch-up Jobs before" because this is the first expansion. Idc what FFXI did. New team, new game. If anything, the only evidence of anything we had was SE introducing Ninja near the end of 2.x cycle and extending the relic quest to them. They could have said no relic for Ninja but they didn't. Not making relics for the 3.x Jobs makes sense because why revert and make functionally "old" content when working on the expansion right? But now they have wandered into the area where they have to make a choice. You and I are not the only people in this predicament I'm sure. They either tell us that we don't get jack-shit because we switched Jobs, or they tell us we can do what I proposed because they literally left us with no other options. This would not be a problem for me at all if they had just given me a way to achieve the skip.

    I don't see how you can't view this as a punishment? I did the exact requirements needed to skip a step. I switched to a Job that doesn't have a relic. My punishment of not being able to skip a step is solely caused by my choice of playing one of their highly touted new Jobs. Had I stayed Bard, I would be able to skip the step. Again, this is not about me "deserving" anything, it's about the fact that they left me with absolutely no way to "earn" the skip. Big difference. I'm willing to put the time in, SE wasn't willing to give it to me. Especially with a 3-4 month time period between 3.0 and 3.1. They could have done something.

    But yeah, sorry OP I won't derail this thread any more. Maybe I will start a new one for discussion.
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