Thread: Nexus Light Grinding in 3.0

Originally Posted by Allyrion

The consideration is because you took the time to grind the zeta on that particular Job.
The new Jobs don't have Zeta weapons, so there's no way they'll get that.
It's not like the second relic you grind is easier than the first. The system doesn't give relic compensation if you switch Jobs.

I mean, once you have a zeta you'll get to skip, but it will probably only be on the Job you have it for.

So, you're saying that SE's stance is because I "switched jobs" then I suddenly didn't put the time in for my Yoichi Bow? I put the time in regardless of which job it was for. I don't think I should be able to trade my Bow in to make a BLM relic any quicker because BLM has it's own relic. I would probably grind a relic for DRK had they added one because all I do in this game right now is raid and cap tomes. It would give me something to do. SE didn't give me this option. So now I get to suffer because my favorite Job to play is one of the new ones??

Skipping a step isn't all that big of a deal for me, but for you to say it so non-chalantly as "there's no way they'll get that" seems a bit ridiculous since they literally gave the 3 new jobs no other options. Bard is unenjoyable for me with the 3.0 changes and I have no plans on ever playing the job again. I will gladly trade the Yoichi Bow that I spent hundreds of hours and millions of gil on to skip a step in the DRK 3.x relic chain.

I'll repeat this again: It's not like I didn't put in the time needed. I did. A lot of it. I'm cool with the bow not being used to skip a DRK step, but it doesn't seem fair for SE to not give the new jobs any options for veterans who did put that time in. The Yoichi Bow can rot in my inventory forever if it ends up needing too, I got my usage out of it when I had it and was happy with it when I used it. But the "consideration" as you put it, should "consider" the fact that I now play a job that doesn't give me the option to pursue a 2.0 relic. That wasn't my design decision, I don't see why I should be punished for it.

Unless they literally make the skippable step just like the first step in 2.0 relic. Going to a random location and finding a piece of junk weapon as a "base". If that's the only thing I would have skipped, then it's not too big of a deal. If the "skipped step" involves any sort of RNG, I'll be an unhappy camper to say the least.

Originally Posted by JayCommon

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That's good and all, but it's really not like they would be punishing you.
It's not like you need to skip a part of the relic quest, it's designed to be done all the way.
And you'll have your bow for if you want to do BRD.

I'm in the exact same position as you, except with a different zeta.
But having the relic be tradeable to help skip for the relic of a different Job is probably not going to happen, nor should it.
It's only really applicable for the new Jobs, but that comes with the territory of going into a Job that doesn't have a relic history.

It would be nice if you can trade it in, don't get me wrong.
But I doubt they'll do that considering there's been no relic catch-up between Jobs before.
I also don't think it makes sense giving a bow as a base for a great sword, and what you did on your BRD shouldn't really mean you deserve something as a DRK.

Regardless, it's just doing the whole new relic quest.
I think we can all assume that the new relic quest won't take as long as making a zeta from scratch.
So the new Jobs didn't really need an option that would've taken longer than than what they're actually skipping.

Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

Ah cool. Must have missed it. I assume its in the live letter?

No, a Famitsu interview.

Are you still planning on having some kind of benefit to current holders of Zodiac Weapons Zeta?

Yoshida: There will be some kind of incentive granted to them when the new chapter begins. For example, the opening part will be divided into several phases, and you may be able to skip a stage.

Doesn't sound too significant.

Originally Posted by Radacci

hmm maybe if you just got the achievement, it will apply to all jobs, cause well...you get lv 60 relic, so i don't think you loose your zeta anyway?
and like you said, new jobs can't get zeta, so that would suck, if they can't benefit from it.
maybe it's like more from the quest/story, so the relevant NPCs can get to work on the wep, right away, instead of *getting them up to date*
but the step, is probably not a big deal anyway, so it probably won't matter much.

Maybe for the achievement it might make sense.
But they usually like tie things to lore and achievements are more meta.

I don't think it's a big deal if you switch to a new Job and you have to go into the relic quest fresh because you're playing a Job that doesn't have the same history the others do.
They already said the new relic won't be as grindy as the old one was.
Not sure I entirely believe them, but the way it sounds it's going to be a minor convenience.