Just how easy is your FFXIV to hack? (GOLD SELLERS SUK)

[Sylveret]

I am very serious about this because I have seen on two different occasions multiple characters teleporting around obviously bots. There should be some system in place to prevent this. I am not a programmer but there has to be some solution available.

[Dererk]

I don't Think bots are hacks but before I go on. stop making more RMT threads.

Its more of a auto run program I think.

[Ortamus]

I don't Think bots are hacks but before I go on. stop making more RMT threads.

Its more of a auto run program I think.

Silly OP. Clearly with all 3 of his previous posts he must have seen every RMT thread ever made, and he's missed the part where it says you're in charge of what can be said on these forums. How dare he!

[Dererk]

Silly OP. Clearly with all 3 of his previous posts he must have seen every RMT thread ever made, and he's missed the part where it says you're in charge of what can be said on these forums. How dare he!

Silly Ortamus you failed to realize that there's so much crap on our English forum that this is one of the other reasons we rarly get dev or community rep responses. How dare you.

[Ortamus]

Silly Ortamus you failed to realize that there's so much crap on our English forum that this is one of the other reasons we rarly get dev or community rep responses. How dare you.

No I didn't. I'm just not some arrogant twonk who thinks they have the right to say what someone can or can't post on a forum people kind of pay for. The devs don't respond on here because they're lazy, this forum is like a rash on their arse and they only scratch it after big patches. Silly Dererk for believing otherwise.

[Gunspec]

You've never noticed bots teleporting inside of walls and mining nodes from the inside, eh? Did you notice during the live anniversary stream that JADE is one of the top 5 farmed items in the game? Jade, which has barely a use outside of a handful of recipes for which one or two jade is sufficient, yet which also sells for 12 gil, is one of the top farmed items despite no one ever visibly farming it on most servers.

If I was a dev, I'd feel embarrassed sharing census data which very clearly indicated an RMT hack in progress.

[Blood-Aki]

RMT operate sololy on bots, wall hacks, place of position hacking, even when farming gill in instances they simply go undergroud to avoid being attacked. This is why they favor blm, for this reason, this has been going on since this game started and nothing has stopped it so far. They do quests by teleporting to quest npcs, if even someone simply watched them they can easily see it, but for some reason, they get away with it long enough to do enough damage. And don't get me started on mining bots, which is the reason you see 3-5000+ crystals on sale at once.

[Stormfur]

This is to say nothing of the character accounts that actually ARE hacked and/or put up for sale on less than reputable sites.

I'm surprised a fix to the teleporting underground/between walls stuff hasn't happened yet.

[Adrasteia]

I'm surprised a fix to the teleporting underground/between walls stuff hasn't happened yet.

My suspicion is that player movement is given clientside priority and that the bots send dummy packet updates (e.g. "I've walked from this node to this node") to the server to mask their teleporting. It'd otherwise be easily detectable via heuristics. Clientside priority gives you smooth movement (which is critical in a movement-heavy game like this), but it opens the door to teleporting hacks of this time. There's not much to be done beyond improving heuristics to catch suspicious behaviour that's unrelated to teleporting (like the aforementioned "really loves farming Jade" thing).

(It's also possible that they do have detection methods for teleporting hacks, but are cagey when it comes to talking about them in order to discourage further cheat development. The less you show your hand in terms of cheat protection, the stronger that cheat protection tends to be.)