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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    Ah sorry I completely misunderstood you, but yeah I see what you mean, I hope that it wont be the case in the next raid, while I don't have any problem with the normal mode, I would personally rather skip the normal mode entirely, I kind of miss the bosses being a surprise. The first time I went into T12 I was an awe, not just for the boss but the setting as well...but without the added pressure of it being a hard fight I doubt that feeling would be recreated so easily.



    Maybe forced is a strong word, but without doing Alexander Normal you aren't getting past Faust on day one. Now consider that players had been looking forward to this raid for months, they wanted to go into A1S on day one.
    Then they'd have had to drop its difficulty to match available gear and not have it drop 210.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    You still haven't read my original post and comprehended my points. Also, I can tell you're not a progression raider, because your view points on how gearing works contradicts that of a progression raider. If you simply "wait to get eso gear" you're not bringing your all to the team. I'm not saying this opinion is wrong, or that it's bad, but it's just not an option for those of us who ARE pushing progression.
    Because this is the only MMO I've ever played in the almost 15 years I've been raiding.

    Uh huh. Got it.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    Do you want any more salt with that post? SE tuned Faust with the 190 Alexander Normal gear in mind, I like all of the assumptions you just made about me in that one post though, those dirty casuals don't deserve a normal mode right?

    One thing I do expect is to be able to go into the serious raid the day it's released, I already waited months for it as it is. Also I don't care about world or sever firsts, I like playing hard fights but I also have a 9-5 career.

    Oh and I don't have any problem with Alexander NM either, I would rather I didn't have to do NM before Savage but it's how SE built the game, I'll just get on with it without crying about it.
    Then why are you crying about it? Only salty ones in here are the folks agreeing with OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Then why are you crying about it? Only salty ones in here are the folks agreeing with OP.
    Do you actually have a point? Or are you arguing for the sake of it?

    I'm not crying about anything in here, it's one of the few topics that have come up on these forums that's actually half decent. You know, instead of scrubs asking to get stuff for no effort, crying about weapons not having special skills or making up broken jobs and arguing with everyone about them.

    I'm not asking for A1 & 2 be nerfed, why would I ask for them to nerf content I've had on farm for a month now. What I'm saying is that Alexander Normal and Savage should be treated as separate entities, they should have been released together with out one being the requirement to enter the other. E.g. you can enter Savage without clearing normal and law gear was 190 so that you didn't need to grind Alexander Normal to gear up for Savage. That way the raid is a new experience for progression players, we get to look forward to new cut scenes after clearing turns and get to fight bosses for the first time without them being a face roll. And with this casual players can still do the normal raids, experience the story and get their gear. It's not really that unreasonable of a statement really, obviously it's to late as the raids have already begun but hopefully it's something that's considered for the next Alexander raid.

    In another thread Kosmos992k made the suggestion of next tier of Savage raids unlocked by clearing the current Savage without the need for clearing the new Normal. That would seem like a good way of not spoiling whats to come as you go through progression.
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    Thought the floor 1 Savage numbers were clears only, not number of players who have attempted it. The translation on that slide was misleading, because it showed that 0 people had "entered" floor 4 which was patently false at the time of the census.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Thought the floor 1 Savage numbers were clears only, not number of players who have attempted it. The translation on that slide was misleading, because it showed that 0 people had "entered" floor 4 which was patently false at the time of the census.
    That is correct, it is the number of players who have cleared each floor.
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