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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    While the solution is simple, they would have to nerf NIN's DPS significantly if they introduced what you proposed. NIN's DPS is based around being a "technical" class, and what that means is that people have to learn to execute Mudra combinations properly, both with proper speed and sequence. Your solution would remove this technical aspect (which is not unlike removing Greased Lightning's timer for MNK), more than likely prompting SE to rebalance the class from the ground up.

    While I will agree that they should have done testing on subpar connections while designing the class, they aren't really responsible for connection issues, which is what Mudra lag is.
    I think you're overestimating how difficult Mudras are to execute, you can learn all the Mudras in less than an hour, or maybe a little more if you have memorisation issues, and the speed is entirely reliant on your ping, nothing else as far as I'm aware... unless of course someone in incapable of hitting one button after another, in which case they're going to be severely gimped with OGCD abilities regardless. The Ninja class was designed with Mudras being executable almost instantly with developers having extremely low ping, they balance the class around how they play it, as Yoshida once stated in an interview about the MCH. Regardless of all that, isn't Ninja currently the lowest DPS melee at the moment?

    But that's also the reason I suggest a cast bar, if you get hit or move, it's interrupted. Another idea would be to keep both systems in place, if you were to manually cast the signs the potency would be the regular amount, otherwise it'll be slightly lower.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 08-27-2015 at 10:28 AM.

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    I hope they fix it soon. I just unlocked my second madra and if I hit both madras and then ninjutsu as fast as I can I get Fuma Shuriken. From what I can gather, the server updates the ninjutsu skill as it receives madra inputs. So if you press the ninjutsu button before the server receives and verifies that it receives the second madra, you just get a shuriken.

    So it should works something like

    Press Ten ---> Server receives Ten --->Server changes ninjutsu to Fuma Shuriken-->Press Chi--->Server changes Ninjutsu to Raiton --->Press Ninjutsu=Raiton is used

    but what happens with madra lag is

    Press Ten ---> Press Chi ---> Server receives Ten --->Server changes Ninjutsu to Fuma Shuriken ---->Press Ninjutsu=Fuma Shuriken is used

    Honestly, this is really killing ninja for me.I really want to play the class but I can't simply because I'm Australian. I'm no expert at this game but no other class I've tried so far has had nearly the same level of lag induced frustration.

    edit: This all could be fixed so easily by having ninjutsu calculated client side. Destiny does a huge amount of stuff client side and it feels butter smooth because of it. I realize that SE is cautious of potential hacks but I really think they need to prioritize usability over minor exploits.

    Otherwise they need to make the system much more lenient by doing things like not having weapon skills break the madra chain.
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    Last edited by Stormblessed9000; 08-27-2015 at 03:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormblessed9000 View Post
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    I highly recommend using WTFast, it's mostly fixed the problem of my Mudras not going through, although the main issue that remains in that rather large clipping into my GCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I highly recommend using WTFast, it's mostly fixed the problem of my Mudras not going through, although the main issue that remains in that rather large clipping into my GCD.
    Thanks for the recommendation. I'm afraid that I'm already using it though, so no luck for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormblessed9000 View Post
    Thanks for the recommendation. I'm afraid that I'm already using it though, so no luck for me.
    Ah, that sucks. =/ Tends to happen here when my ping spikes too, but otherwise it's fine for the most part... All the more reason they should just change the Mudra signs to animations imo.
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