From the Uncrying

[scarebearz]

I've just looked on your server, there are quite a few 2* items for sale (not many actually sold), but your not selling any of them.

Prices are about the same as my server, for both the mats and materia.

Yet your magically making loads of gil from 2*, can't say I believe you xD

There is also not a single DoM/DoW HQ piece on your MB, so much for 2* thriving?

[scarebearz]

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You mention "if you are a real crafter" and talk about failing non star crafts with previous 3.0 BiS gear xD

The point still stands that the new gear is not needed for anything currently.

The new gear would save you 1/2 steps in a macro, but it seems it still wont allow you to 100% HQ from NQ mats lvl 60 non star gear, using a single macro press. I doubt the time saved VS cost is anything close to worthwhile.

The only real function of the new craft sets is glamour and to be fair, some of them look pretty nice.

[Kabooa]

Which one are you?

She's apparently a gillionaire.

Let's clear up a couple misconceptions

People who dislike the system are not, by necessity, avoiding participation.
People who like the system are not, by necessity, 'profiting'. (We can't really quantify fun though)

The only thing we can't dispute is crafting has always been optional. It could only be considered mandatory by people who push content the moment it's released, simply because crafted gear has allowed for stat set ups that available loot does not provide. (Even in this 'ruined' system, at the bare minimum i150 accessories are used for vitality/strength melding). It's currently in a transitional phase and it's too early to say 'useless' or 'useful' until 3.1 hits and we see these new recipes.

[scarebearz]

There's no need to be rude. It's clear you don't want to put in actual work to craft and just want things handed to you. The red scrip system has really shown the true colors of who crafts for fun and enjoyment and who just does it when they aren't raiding as a "side thing". Which one are you?

It's not being rude, you bought up the "if your a real crafter topic" xD

Was this system not meant to be more "casual friendly" anyway?

She's apparently a gillionaire.

I hit 2bil gil back in March mostly from crafting, maybe compared to Irisviel I'm only a casual crafter?

I'll quote Irisviel talking about new 2* crafted crafter gear:

The ultimate question is closer to "is this route feasible for anyone with less than a billion gil?" and the answer is no.

It's not even feasible for people with a lot of gil, as you wont see a return in the insane investment needed, as the gear is not needed/useful enough.

I don't mind chasing a carrot on the end of a stick, but there has to be a carrot there :P

It does not mean I've not made any of this gear to use myself (Gotta have that glam ;O), I've made myself several of the chest parts, un-melded they are nearly the same stats as the previous BiS, so I just use them un-melded, as the stats I had before were more than fine for current stuff.

People who dislike the system are not, by necessity, avoiding participation.
People who like the system are not, by necessity, 'profiting'. (We can't really quantify fun though)

Agreed ^^

[Ranzan]

I hit 2bil gil back in March mostly from crafting.

By the Twelve how much for a guide to get a quarter of that amount? ^_^;;

On topic: OP just well... no just no... He has to be a very bad troll.

[scarebearz]

By the Twelve how much for a guide to get a quarter of that amount? ^_^;;

With crafting as it is currently..... no idea xD

Problem with guides is, once a gil making method is "in the open", it's suddenly no use because everyone does the same thing xD

Like those who made a killing on the FC3 desynth from wedding glam ^^ (sadly i was not one of those who found this early on xD)

[Aeyis]

There's no need to be rude. It's clear you don't want to put in actual work to craft and just want things handed to you. The red scrip system has really shown the true colors of who crafts for fun and enjoyment and who just does it when they aren't raiding as a "side thing". Which one are you?

I dont know about that. But it has certainly shown the colors of those that like to run their mouth and talk big just because.

For your talk about work, were you actually around in 1.0 when crafting required actual work? I mean the 2.x system was just a watered down version of that. And in 3.x so far we dont have much that can be enjoyed, just a lot of time investement.

[scarebearz]

On the same note a good number of them are rather disappointing. A pimp outfit for weaver? Really?

Quite like it when dyed personally :O xD

GSM robe is my fav though :O

I dont know about that. But it has certainly shown the colors of those that like to run their mouth and talk big just because.

For your talk about work, were you actually around in 1.0 when crafting required actual work? I mean the 2.x system was just a watered down version of that. And in 3.x so far we dont have much that can be enjoyed, just a lot of time investement.

Just check his/her lodestone under achievements, he/she has done hardly any crafting xD Unless this is an alt character.

Just looked at mine on lodestoneas it gives the dates:

An Eye for Detail: Goldsmith III
26/09/2013
Craft 3,000 high-quality items as a goldsmith.

I remember those level 45-49 accessories selling like sooooooo fast xD

Them was the days!