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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokuhn View Post
    Or they can release both normal and savage on same patch. . I too get burnt out on savage. . With no story it's difficult to be excited on progression.

    This was one of my fears when they said they were releasing a easy story mode I wouldn't say burn out but ya the story was one of the reasons a lot of people did coil I like hard content and story's but the same exact thing they mind as well have cut costs in savage by not outing in cut scenes. And it can be harder to find people for this stuff. Savage will never belong in duty finder so they should make savage mode a 2 full party content. At lest then it can be easier to find people because your more lose with the roles your willing to take.
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    A lot of progression raiders think it is because of the lack of story. I agree with them. The story was part of the reward for clearing. I honestly think that having a normal mode was a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    I honestly think that having a normal mode was a bad idea.
    Not really. Just the shedule was bad in my eyes. It would be better, if they release the normal mode when the next savage part gets released.

    Normal mode instead of echo and nerf, but the same time they have done coil with echon and nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Not really. Just the shedule was bad in my eyes. It would be better, if they release the normal mode when the next savage part gets released.

    Normal mode instead of echo and nerf, but the same time they have done coil with echon and nerf.
    I think normal was/is a mistake. Like LFR trivialized raiding in Wow, it's doing more or less the same in FFXIV. Already burned out from normal mode so most likely won't be doing savage cuz I've basically just don't the raid a hundred times already. Not the way to go imo.

    But yeah, releasing normal when the new savage part is released could do the trick.
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    Last edited by Imoye; 08-26-2015 at 08:31 PM.

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    So leave it for a bit then and idealy once you farmed normal you should be focusing on getting ESO more then Alex gear lthought by now you should have full Alex gear? My static broke our days up we used tonraid 4 days straight but only do not Mon the and when now to make it not feel like a chore.
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    Eh, you only burn yourself out cause you feel the need to finish it now and the way to do that is by gearing up with the best gear.

    See you are asking them to release content that is specifically designed to make it easier to gear compared to the first patch.

    Basically you have 3.0, And with that you can gear with 170-180, 190, 200-210, and the way of obtaining that is through law tomes, esoteric, and Alexander Normal/Savage.

    When 3.1 comes around they add a new layer of gearing up allowing you the opportunity to possibly obtain il200 gear through the raid on a weekly basis. So now rather than the limit of esoteric tomes and 1 i190 piece a week you would have your pick at esoteric, il190 alexander and the potential i200 raid 24 man gear.

    It's a design choice that allows content to gear cap quicker because now you have this new option to gear up, if they did it the otherway around then it would in a way defeat the purpose of the 24 man content because the 24-man is a casual experience that allows for an increased speed in gearing up.

    3.0=Hard mode in a sense, laws, esoteric, alexander Normal/Hard
    3.1=Bit easier adds more options for gear and the relic (3.1 or 3.15) and also primal weapon potentially

    So those who want to be world first have that hurdle to cross they have less options for gear and their skill has to count, on the otherhand once 3.1 comes around there are more options to surpass that gear check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokuhn View Post
    Or they can release both normal and savage on same patch. . I too get burnt out on savage. . With no story it's difficult to be excited on progression.
    Wasn't excited for normal's story.
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    Savage requires more gear progression then the coil series of raids this is why people are taking longer to clear it. It isn't harder from a mechanics standpoint but the gear check part of it is much higher.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    I definitely think the story mode should never have existed, or it should have at least been a 'middle ground'. Something that is too hard to clear in duty finder, but easier than savage difficulty. Maybe on par with extreme primals?

    But alas~

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    72 man raiding.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    If this becomes a thing I'm quitting.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 08-26-2015 at 03:30 PM.

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    If we must have a normal mode for people who think they can't raid then I'd prefer savage come out first, then the easier mode for catch up. Story isn't as big of an issue it's more the fact that half the fight is pretty much spoiled and you know which bosses are coming up, takes away from the excitement of progression. I think there's still a lot of room for improvement with the raids in general though but that's another thing altogether.
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    Last edited by VargasVermillion; 08-27-2015 at 07:46 AM.

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