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  1. #31
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    99% = raiding
    1% = stupid content

    Thats what op suggests with how they want whm to have it so bad.

    There's pvp,
    Op says ohhh but pvp is trash in this game and no one does it so it doesn't count as content.

    Yes the pvp in this game sucks but its still a playable mode = content that is still played by a small to decent size (playerbase).

    Whms let the other healers mitigate dmg. Yoshi even took away ur precious 18% stoneskin lmao cuz it would be unbalanced as the game progressed.
    No double dipping into other classes/ job's skills plz.
    Also another reason why we haven't seen any new cross class abilities being added.
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  2. #32
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LStarbreeze View Post
    You're acting like WHM cant handle themselves without Supervirus.
    SCH can handle itself without proshell or cleric stance
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  3. #33
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    Alexa Nubara
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Cleric Stance isn't unique to WHM for OBV reasons.,,,come on be serious....


    Proshell yeah that was kinda I guess ?
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  4. #34
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Said changes are fine for AST if it means giving them a chance to heal end-game raids, but WHM didn't get anything out of the deal.
    News flash - don't expect to "get anything out of the deal" every time an underpowered class is balanced to be on par with other like classes.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 08-27-2015 at 02:40 AM. Reason: Spelling error

  5. #35
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    SCH can handle itself without proshell or cleric stance
    The former yes, the latter no.

    Cleric Stance may not be essential to the action of healing, but it's utterly vital to excelling at the healer role.

    As for WHM Supervirus, I don't care either way except that I don't believe that BLM should get it since I think it should remain unique to SMN out of the casting DPS.
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  6. 08-27-2015 03:56 AM

  7. #36
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    Jerrard Coeurl
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 60
    3 minute Benediction wouldn't be terrible...!
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  8. #37
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Escha View Post
    I'll trade you supervirus for medica
    You already got it. Indomitability, emergency tactics succor, etc etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by LStarbreeze View Post
    You're acting like WHM cant handle themselves without Supervirus.
    Of course they can. It just helps WHM out in an area that it's a bit behind in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Thats what op suggests with how they want whm to have it so bad.

    There's pvp,
    Op says ohhh but pvp is trash in this game and no one does it so it doesn't count as content.

    Yes the pvp in this game sucks but its still a playable mode = content that is still played by a small to decent size (playerbase).
    Um... what? You're putting an awful lot of works in my mouth O.o

    Anyways, some of you all are acting like the sky is falling. SCHs will be still be kings of mitigation and noct ASTs will still have much better shields than WHM. All this does is make one of WHM's abilities not useless against big magic hits. Really that's all. It's a tiny change/request.
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  9. #38
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Cleric Stance may not be essential to the action of healing, but it's utterly vital to excelling at the healer role.
    ^ just pointing out that the same could be said of supervirus/disable.
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  10. #39
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    ^ just pointing out that the same could be said of supervirus/disable.
    It could be said, but no one would buy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    Cause nothing say "excelling at the healing role" like a SCH who refuses to use supervirus. /sarcasm
    Don't try to be cute. You know that Cleric Stance and the Supervirus trait are not anywhere close to being on the same level as far being essential for basic healer functionality.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 08-27-2015 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Circumventing annoying post restriction.

  11. #40
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    ^ just pointing out that the same could be said of supervirus/disable.
    You go level a bit without cleric stance.
    I will wait for an hour till you kill a single mob.
    If you don't have cleric stance you might as well remove all damage abilities if your hotbar since farting in the general direction of the fight does more damage.
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