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    DRK Change in Patch 3.07

    From the patch notes:

    "Blood Weapon now applies an effect that reduces the TP cost of weapon skills by 20%."

    Assuming 0 skill speed (it won't be, but lets assume), without BW:

    15s = 6 abilities = 2 combos of 190 TP each = 380 spent. Recovery is 60TP every 3s, so 300 recovered for net -80TP

    With BW:

    15s = 7 abilities = 2 combos of 190TP plus an addition 70TP = 450 spent, less 20% = 360 spent. Net -60TP

    It seems to me as if the offset really doesn't help TP issues that much, but it's nice to know at least now using BW won't make you run dry even more quickly.
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    Last edited by Kydi; 08-25-2015 at 05:58 PM.

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    Will be nice to try it out though, to see if the changes makes a impact. I suppose you will mainly notice this if you are OT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kydi View Post
    It seems to me as if the offset really doesn't help TP issues that much, but it's nice to know at least now using BW won't make you run dry even more quickly.
    Which is suspect is the point to the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kydi View Post
    With BW:
    15s = 7 abilities = 2 combos of 190TP plus an addition 70TP = 450 spent, less 20% = 360 spent. Net -60TP
    With old BW :
    15 = 7 abilities = 2 combos of 190TP plus an additionnal 70TP = 450 TP spent. Recovery is 60TP every 3s, so 300 recovered for net -150TP.

    So you "save" 90 TP every 40s, not that bad. Doesn't do anything when MT'ing though. But I guess you could pop some Unmend to keep your TP afloat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordHousewife View Post
    You're saving 20 not 90 because 70 of that 90 is going to another Hard Slash. Without BW you get 6 GCDs in 15s. With BW you get 7 GCDs in 15s.
    With the old BW you also got 7 GCD.
    You're saving 90 when compared to the previous Blood Weapon.

    What's the point of comparing the TP drain with and without Blood Weapon ? You don't need to prove that you burn TP faster with BW...
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 08-25-2015 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    With the old BW you also got 7 GCD.
    You're saving 90 when compared to the previous Blood Weapon.

    What's the point of comparing the TP drain with and without Blood Weapon ? You don't need to prove that you burn TP faster with BW...
    Blood Weapon will now be a (very minor) TP gain though. Without BW you have a net -80 over the 15s window, with BW a net -60 over the 15s window, so a slight reduction in TP spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kydi View Post
    Blood Weapon will now be a (very minor) TP gain though. Without BW you have a net -80 over the 15s window, with BW a net -60 over the 15s window, so a slight reduction in TP spent.
    It's still useless to compare the two...

    Blood Weapon IS a DPS gain, so, you'd have used it anyway.
    Before patch 3.07, it was a TP loss of 150TP, now it's a TP loss of 60TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    With old BW :
    15 = 7 abilities = 2 combos of 190TP plus an additionnal 70TP = 450 TP spent. Recovery is 60TP every 3s, so 300 recovered for net -150TP.

    So you "save" 90 TP every 40s, not that bad. Doesn't do anything when MT'ing though. But I guess you could pop some Unmend to keep your TP afloat.
    Ya will give it ago tonight, one more level to go on DRK. See the changes in effect.
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    Does BW still absorb mp? I kinda liked getting the most out of ogcd with it on.

    Because if it just saves on tp now, shouldn't it be able to be used while in grit?

    Also, why is living dead still a crapshoot to use?
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