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  1. #301
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    Verrin's Avatar
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    Verrin Gunnar
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Says a level 50 Scholar.
    odd last i checked i was lvl 60 http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2344246/
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  2. #302
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Verrin View Post
    Your forum profile says Arcanist 50. My bad.

    Either way SCH does not need buffs right now. Any buff they get would require a nerf somewhere else.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  3. #303
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    Rewind's Avatar
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    Lady Rewind
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 61
    People saying SCH is being in danger of being replace are just fear mongering and aren't playing in end-game, fast progression raiding. They also don't understand the intended design of AST versus SCH.

    Yes, the greater heal potency is going to help AST a lot in other aspects of the game (daily aspects), and the utility changes have made AST more viable in end-game raiding. That being said SCH DPS is still/always will be far superior than AST & WHM DPS and that's what makes end-game SCH especially unique. For AST to match SCH DPS more revisions to AoE DPS effects and mana regen would need to be considered.

    AST isn't for the type of healer that enjoys DPSing and healing. AST is a support healer - We'll buff other peoples DPS, regen their resources and heal them. Now, people have a choice between SCH, WHM and AST for end-game progression because they can 'hold their own' healing wise.

    The ONLY problem with bringing an AST rather than a SCH is that you still might not be meeting DPS requirements because the cards are still random (besides the first balance). You may only roll a balance once for the entire encounter. Whilst the cards have greater presence, it may lead to inconsistency in meeting DPS checks on hard DPS checks (think hand split in A3s Savage).

    An AST (Dirunal)/SCH combo may be a really strong combo as well, though I still expect a little more SCH healing output than with a WHM/SCH combo.
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    Last edited by Rewind; 08-26-2015 at 06:16 AM.

  4. #304
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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Verrin View Post
    says an ast
    I didn't happen not by a longshot.
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  5. #305
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    RyouAkizuki's Avatar
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    Katha Kagon
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Verrin View Post
    says an ast
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2309678/

    Also a Sch, which is what I played until 3.0.

    Anyway, who would replace a Sch anyway. Take a Sch and Diurnal Ast if anything.
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  6. #306
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    Leopard's Maelstrom
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 56
    I finally can be participated in party from PF.

    It is supposed to be I think.

    Now I can call it balanced.
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  7. #307
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    SerosJourney's Avatar
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    Sero Blu
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 82
    I just have to laugh about all the WHM and SCH that "mimimi" about the AST now.....


    Did you play this Job already???
    Do you really understand the Job of Astros?

    WHM for example has its skill that attacks AND heals all nearby pary members AND regens Mana......
    do I have to say more???? I don't think so.....

    Scholars? you cry about your shields now..... oh my gosh the AST has a instant shield and its soooooo much better than mine.......
    forgotten your fairy??? Forgotten how strong your DoTs still be?
    yes you did!!!!!
    (and there are more SCH than WHM that cry about the AST-Buffs!!!!)

    LET THE HEALER WARS BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let us all change to Astrologians because their are so much Overpowered now!!!!

    Who needs Whitemages anymore? Or even Scholars?
    Their all just stay in the shadow of the Astro now!



    It's just ridiculous what you're saying!!!
    and if you'd know your Job...than you'd know it!

    To all Astrologians here: Enjoy your catch up! Enjoy the feeling to be finaly equal to other healers

    and to all hater SCHs/WHMs: Just feel free to enter the circle of Astrologians!!!! xD



    Remember what the healers Job is.....
    in my humble opinion:

    the Whitemage is a very strong healer! Which can heal all party members in a most powerful way! He can increase his Healpotential and deal with almost all problems there may come.

    the Scholar has its fairy, that support him with healing, so he can cast shields to partymembers...and so he's got the time to set powerful Dots!

    The Astrologian now, got enough time to deal with his cards and SUPPORT the other healer with his instant shields/HoTs. Just because he has enough to deal with this, he can support the others in Damage with his cards....more speed, more damage, less CDs.....but this is all random.....so you can hardly rely on them!
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  8. #308
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Indeed!! Could not have said it better.

    I am glad that SE team buffed the healing part of AST, before everyone forget, AST is FIRST and FOREMOST, is a HEALER job... that can buffs, which is their "unique" calling cards so to speak. SCH can also bring some buffs capabilities, that are more consistent, albeit not as effective compared to buffs provided by AST in a perfect scenario.

    Now AST is a very competent healer with its own signature moves. The tweak on their card buffs, is fairly minor, extending the duration, which is not over powering, but it is a welcome change that could turn the tide of battle - which is how it should be.

    Will AST replace a WHM or SCH? You bet your ass, it will. It is called OPTIONS, which open up more variety and strategy. Can double AST do better than the cookie cutter WHM + SCH? Why not, they probably could in the hand of two experienced players who know what they are doing. Now all three healers have their own strength and weaknesses and their own flavor when it comes to healing style.

    STOP with all these INSANITY of "the sky is falling" upon WHM and SCH... unless you are one of those "healers who have no clue" how to play your role effectively. WHM is still the power house when it come to healing, it's much easier to play as healer job. SCH is still far far more interesting to play as DPS/Healer hybrid, and the fairy is way way way better than AST "minor buffs".
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 08-26-2015 at 07:38 AM.

  9. #309
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Verrin View Post
    the astro buffs piss me off, they now do everything better, now wheres the whm & sch buffs???
    This is how I felt when I read the notes. I don't get how an hybrid can be better than both specialists. I don't really have anything against it, it's just a game and I don't care playing a job that is a bit less powerful than others, but my heart keep saying a no-no to the changes.
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  10. #310
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    SerosJourney's Avatar
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    Sero Blu
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Honestly, it blows my mind, how many people in this thread I have seen whining and complaining about how AST sucked, and how it needed so many changes to make it viable. Now, they've made some great changes, and the same people are bitching and moaning because AST now has something that makes it a great healer - even while WHM and SCH are still as amazing (as they always were) and will never be replaced.

    Seriously, grow up. Some of you are seriously acting like the jealous stepsisters in my Final Fantasy Fairytale (see page 17).

    oh yes!!!!! This is just true!!!!!!
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