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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    All I'm seeing is people not wanting SCH + WHM now, because AST combinations are "superior".
    Not superior by any stretch, since the 10% attack bonus buffs is RANDOM, like maybe 2-3 balance every 6 draws, IF YOU ARE SUPER LUCKY, 1-2 every 6 is more likely. All the other buffs are similar to what the Fairy already provided, so essentially it is about the same. It's just giving you a "somewhat different" play style when it comes to healing combination. It does give the illusion of "more superior", when in reality, it's more of the same. The biggest difference is, now AST is equal counterpart when it comes to HEALER role in the party.
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    Aylmer Angelis
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    I agree with does who love the changes. Im a careerSCH and AST will never out mitigate dmg like Sch or emergency heal with minimal mp strain.
    Whm will always have bigger heals with better constant/hp regen capabilities with their tools. Sch has buffs and aoe esuna, whm has presence of mind and heal magic boosters. I just dont see why anyone would see why Ast is now OP and not just equal in its assistance to a party"s survival.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    A shield that can shield equivalent to adlo, but you have access to cure II as well.
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    A shield that can shield equivalent to adlo, but you have access to cure II as well.
    30% more than adlo while having access to cure 2 and cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    30% more than adlo while having access to cure 2 and cards.
    If you fail to see how GOOD and OP SCH is, with the Fairy + Rouse combo, amongst other far superior tools in SCH arsenal, I don't know what else to tell you. AST is now can bring similar benefits as SCH, in different ways, and give players who like to play as healer, another way to play. THREE different healers, with their own uniqueness, but more or less about the same potency when it comes to "can you heal your party effectively?".

    Our Fairy healing potency pretty much destroy any minor bonus that AST have, AST need that 30% more, to make up with the lack of Fairy, and everything else. The buffs and adjustment is sorely needed. Now we have a good healer who can stand toe to toe with the other two, and any party leader can simply try the AST combination without fear of "lacking the healing potency". And yes, that means, SCH or WHM will be out of the picture. You can say the same about the 4 DPS slot, and we have 7 DPS, three of them will be always out of the picture.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 08-26-2015 at 08:16 AM.

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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    30% more than adlo while having access to cure 2 and cards.
    Oh give me a break. My AST is geared with three Eso pieces, while my SCH has none. My Noc Aspec Benefic is healing for about 1895-1950 while my SCH Adlo is over 2,000.
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    Peach Parfait
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    30% more than adlo while having access to cure 2 and cards.
    Adlo shields for 300 (600 on Crit).
    Asp Benefic shields for 342.

    42 is 14% of 300.

    Total potencies are 600 (900 on crit) for SCH and 604 = [262.5 + (262.5*1.3)] for AST
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    Last edited by SuzakuCMX; 08-26-2015 at 08:21 AM.

    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Adlo shields for 300 (600 on Crit).
    Asp Benefic shields for 342.

    42 is 14% of 300.

    Total potencies are 600 (900 on crit) for SCH and 604 = [262.5 + (262.5*1.3)] for AST
    Still more and oh, at 66% mp cost of adlo + instant cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Still more and oh, at 66% mp cost of adlo + instant cast.
    Adlo also heals for more than Aspected Benefic. The total difference is about 4 potency if the 130% is calculated after the 5% from Noct boost. If it's calculated as a total 35% boost then it's exactly 600 and they are the same outside of crits.

    AST also lacks fairy healing (which is significant) and fairy buffs, Virus, E4E, the MP management of SCH, and Lustrate.

    AST still heals for less than WHM/SCH total but is a lot closer in terms of what they provide. Which is how it should be because cards are now powerful.

    Honestly you need to chill out if you think AST is going to be brought over SCH. It's now up to the preference of the healers as AST is interchangeable with SCH.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Khyan Leikas
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    30% more than adlo while having access to cure 2 and cards.
    You can add an additionnal 20% with synastry on.
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