What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

[tjw]

I woke up to get a drink in the middle of the night and saw these changes, and now I am too excited to sleep because our healing kit is ridiculous with these changes. OMG.

I'm sure its not ridiculous as you think. Outside of the potency increases for certain skills (and a decrease in one particular skill) we only really essentially received one extra tool to our healing kit (Synastry). The cards are still locked behind RNG, but now the pay-off is worth it. CO, Disable and CU don't directly increase healing, but the first two are now more viable and not as useless, whereas CU can be used in many scenarios now (especially in Noc, giving Noc Sect some form of passive healing). Generally good buffs across, but not changed so much as to replace WHM and SCH. AST is now more viable while still retaining some of its weaknesses, which are now better able to be justified given the strongest base potencies of the healers now (Nocturnal) and if good fortune smiles on you, noticeable buffs.

As someone mentioned earlier, this is definitely a required balancing of AST. AST still needs to contend with less off-GCD heals, sub-par mana management, sub-par DPS, longer cooldowns on buffs and RNG cards, but its healing throughput has been increased enough now to hopefully be competitive with WHM and SCH.

Potency changes

Benefic
Before Patch: 380 (Diurnal), 399 (Nocturnal).
After Patch: 400 (Diurnal), 420 (Nocturnal).

Benefic II
Before Patch: 620 (Diurnal), 651 (Nocturnal)
After Patch: 650 (Diurnal), 683 (Nocturnal)

Helios
Before Patch: 290 (Diurnal), 305 (Nocturnal)
After Patch: 300 (Diurnal), 315 (Nocturnal)

Aspected B.
Before Patch: 790 (Diurnal), 525 (Nocturnal)
After Patch: 1030 (Diurnal), 604 (Nocturnal)

Aspected H.
Before Patch: 640 (Diurnal), 294 (Nocturnal)
After Patch: 600 (Diurnal), 315 (Nocturnal)

[Rashammel]

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Lets give AST the same amount of o-gcd of a Whitemage and let him whit the same potency of Healing and the support utility kit.
Looks very Balanced.

[tjw]

Lets give AST the same amount of o-gcd of a Whitemage and let him whit the same potency of Healing and the support utility kit.

I don't even know how you picked that up from my post. I never advocated for AST to receive all of 3 oGCD heals of WHM (of all the strengths of WHM to pick, you picked oGCD? Ok.)

I'm speaking up against those who think that AST is now OP. It isn't. It still has its own magnitude of problems to deal with, as both healers do, but its now more viable and COMPETITIVE with WHM and SCH.

What's so hard to understand about that?

[Archvile78]

So i wonder, with the Balance card + extended + TD + CO are we looking at 1min30 10% damage buff lol?

[Rashammel]

I don't even know how you picked that up from my post. I never advocated for AST to receive all of 3 oGCD heals of WHM (of all the strengths of WHM to pick, you picked oGCD? Ok.)

I'm speaking up against those who think that AST is now OP. It isn't. It still has its own magnitude of problems to deal with, as both healers do, but its now more viable and COMPETITIVE with WHM and SCH.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Sorry i'ts almost 6.am here and i'm a bit sleep, and that part

"As someone mentioned earlier, this is definitely a required balancing of AST. AST still needs to contend with less off-GCD heals, sub-par mana management, sub-par DPS, longer cooldowns on buffs and RNG cards."

looked for me like "need to Balance this". And whit potency of healing increased to the same lvl of WHM and SCH i think changing some things, like the RNG cards, and or "sub-par DPS" will unbalance so much the game, AST it's not OP now, is a Healer whit a support kit. Also Sub par mana management was adressed whit increasing pontency since or healings skill cost less.

[Evanoel]

Yasss, can't wait to test them out tonight. I particularly love the reduced cd of CO = More frequent boosted LA. <3

[Cupcakesu]

Does Nocturnal's 5% boost still work now? If so, (forgive my math if it's wrong don't hurt me please)

Aspected Benefic in Nocturnal Stance still has a potency of 250. Noct's 5% potency buff increases AB's potency to 262.5 (I think?). The shield portion is now 130% of the heal, leaving us with a 341.25 potency shield. Total effective potency comes up to 603.75, just slightly more than Adlo's 600. Note, however, that AST also has Benefic II with 650 potency healing (682.5 after sect bonus), so Bene II is still your go-to burst heal. AB however has higher BASE shields than SCH's Adlo (341 vs 300).

Otherwise, Noct's healing potencies now look like this:
Benefic - 420
Benefic II - 682.5
Helios - 315

And then can be enhanced further with Synastry's 20% boost. I guess this... sort of makes up for the lack of a fairy?

[Khyan]

Does Nocturnal's 5% boost still work now? If so, (forgive my math if it's wrong don't hurt me please)

Aspected Benefic in Nocturnal Stance still has a potency of 250. Noct's 5% potency buff increases AB's potency to 262.5 (I think?). The shield portion is now 130% of the heal, leaving us with a 341.25 potency shield. Total effective potency comes up to 603.75, just slightly more than Adlo's 600. Note, however, that AST also has Benefic II with 650 potency healing (682.5 after sect bonus), so Bene II is still your go-to burst heal. AB however has higher BASE shields than SCH's Adlo (341 vs 300).

Otherwise, Noct's healing potencies now look like this:
Benefic - 420
Benefic II - 682.5
Helios - 315

And then can be enhanced further with Synastry's 20% boost. I guess this... sort of makes up for the lack of a fairy?

Better and instant than adlo. Now SCH have to crit for better adlo than AST shield, it's ridiculous.

I'm glad they buffed AST though.

[Shinji2787]

I feel op now and I haven't even played 3.07 yet.

[Whiteroom]

Looks like some really good improvements to me! Won't feel so weak anymore!