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    tjw's Avatar
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    Kyan Ashton
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    Lol
    (That's not real....right?.......RIGHT?)
    It's likely to be a bug that will be patched, but yes, the Regen effect is currently separate from the mitigation effect. That means that upon placement, you get the Regen effect for 18 seconds, and if you get the server tick at the end and move back in, another 18 seconds. You also retain the Regen effect leaving the bubble.

    Essentially, it means if you let CU do its whole duration and everyone stays to get 36 secs of Regen, it has an effective Regen potency of 1800. AoE. And can be increased with Time Dilation and CO.
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    Unmotivated's Avatar
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    Ivanna Vitali
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    It's likely to be a bug that will be patched, but yes, the Regen effect is currently separate from the mitigation effect. That means that upon placement, you get the Regen effect for 18 seconds, and if you get the server tick at the end and move back in, another 18 seconds. You also retain the Regen effect leaving the bubble.

    Essentially, it means if you let CU do its whole duration and everyone stays to get 36 secs of Regen, it has an effective Regen potency of 1800. AoE. And can be increased with Time Dilation and CO.
    The regen duration is 15 seconds rather than 18, but everything else is right on the money. Stack all your regens in Diurnal and your HoT ticks are almost as strong as your Benefic, it's pretty entertaining.
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    It's likely to be a bug that will be patched, but yes, the Regen effect is currently separate from the mitigation effect. That means that upon placement, you get the Regen effect for 18 seconds, and if you get the server tick at the end and move back in, another 18 seconds. You also retain the Regen effect leaving the bubble.

    Essentially, it means if you let CU do its whole duration and everyone stays to get 36 secs of Regen, it has an effective Regen potency of 1800. AoE. And can be increased with Time Dilation and CO.
    But I think its intended. The bubble lasts 18 seconds and grants 10% damage reduction and a 15 seconds regen. If you leave the bubble the regen still ticks, if you enter the bubble again the regen resets again. I like it, now it's really useful.
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    Master Puu
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Benefic and Benefic II got a potency buff to match that of a whm but the mana cost remained the same as before the patch. Along with luminiferous Aether + Celestial Opposition and random ewer's i don't think astro will have much mp problems.
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    Last edited by Namikman; 08-25-2015 at 08:19 PM.

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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.


    Quote Originally Posted by Soyre_Monre View Post
    Scholar will still be required for progression due to their dps and mitigation tools like Deployment, but now i can at least see Astrologian being competitive on the healing side. I don't think this buff is enough to be on par for early raid progression, you still burn too mp while dpsing imho, but for everything else now you shouldn't see any difference.
    Except Astro now provides better mitigation than scholar in almost every circumstance. Their adlo is stronger, their succor is stronger, their sacred soil is better, and their buffs probably outweigh selene now.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 08-25-2015 at 08:50 PM.

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    Zaj Quilos
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.
    Please do so then.
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    Kuro Starwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.




    Except Astro now provides better mitigation than scholar in almost every circumstance. Their adlo is stronger, their succor is stronger, their sacred soil is better, and their buffs probably outweigh selene now.
    Care to explain in detail how all of what you're saying is true? Or is it all 90% and probablies? Seems people want one thing to always be better and never equal, after all.
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.




    Except Astro now provides better mitigation than scholar in almost every circumstance. Their adlo is stronger, their succor is stronger, their sacred soil is better, and their buffs probably outweigh selene now.
    Well astro doesn't have a Fairy. Doesn't have lustrates, indomitability or better MP regen.

    I think it's a fair trade, slightly better potency for worse emergency tools.
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    Dawn Solaria
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.




    Except Astro now provides better mitigation than scholar in almost every circumstance. Their adlo is stronger, their succor is stronger, their sacred soil is better, and their buffs probably outweigh selene now.
    Few things, Noc Ast and SCH will never be in the same part, Aldos still crits for 200%, our "sacred soil" requires us to not cast and not move, and as a buff class why shouldnt our buffs outweight your fairy?
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    Claire Lihzeh
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    The fact that astro now has an instant cast version of adlo that is significantly better 90% of the time makes me want to quit.




    Except Astro now provides better mitigation than scholar in almost every circumstance. Their adlo is stronger, their succor is stronger, their sacred soil is better, and their buffs probably outweigh selene now.
    With good rng they can outweight selene but absolutely not sch personal dps, and scholar has still more mitigation tools with a better mana management. Adlo cost more mp than aspected, but scholar can also count on a lot more mp. Also, they miss the fairy. Astro's probably better at single target healing thanks to sinastry and is a bit more free on aoe healing, but scholar is still king in mitigation, emergency heals and dps.
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