Me and friend just started

[Frein]

You don't need all classes at 1-20, especially not gathering and crafting classes, as you'll be wasting a lot of time on things that don't actually matter. You will greatly benefit from CON/THM spells on your LNC, though, and other DoWs can provide some decent abilities and traits to go with your LNC.

[Belial]

You don't need all classes at 1-20, especially not gathering and crafting classes, as you'll be wasting a lot of time on things that don't actually matter. You will greatly benefit from CON/THM spells on your LNC, though, and other DoWs can provide some decent abilities and traits to go with your LNC.

I never said he "needed" all classes at that range, I said that's the best way to tackle being a new player on a game where the majority are mid-high range.

@ crafting/gathering "don't matter." - Uh... you new here?

[Frein]

@ crafting/gathering "don't matter." - Uh... you new here?

They don't matter if you're only up to L20. What are you going to do? Repair your L40+ gear? Not going to happen. Craft yourself some L30+ gear? Again, doesn't work. I guess you can make gil by gathering but I never bothered with it and I have no gil problems.

Also, crafting is so boring telling someone they need R20 in crafts is probably the best way to make them immediately uninstall the game.

[CrimsonReign]

They don't matter if you're only up to L20. What are you going to do? Repair your L40+ gear? Not going to happen. Craft yourself some L30+ gear? Again, doesn't work. I guess you can make gil by gathering but I never bothered with it and I have no gil problems.

Also, crafting is so boring telling someone they need R20 in crafts is probably the best way to make them immediately uninstall the game.

true I have no intention of crafting until late late game if I am forced to craft then whats the point of calling this an mmo? I should be able to do w.e I want but apparently it doesn't seem so.

[Belial]

true I have no intention of crafting until late late game if I am forced to craft then whats the point of calling this an mmo? I should be able to do w.e I want but apparently it doesn't seem so.

You can. No one said you had to do anything, run into the game and do whatever your little heart desires.

[Belial]

They don't matter if you're only up to L20. What are you going to do? Repair your L40+ gear? Not going to happen. Craft yourself some L30+ gear? Again, doesn't work. I guess you can make gil by gathering but I never bothered with it and I have no gil problems.

Also, crafting is so boring telling someone they need R20 in crafts is probably the best way to make them immediately uninstall the game.

Let's see what you can do with level 1-20 crafting:
Repair low level gear
Make low level gear
Gain profit through creation of low level gear
Cross-class crafting skills
The ability to create on-demand materials
Repairs in the field
etc.

Arguing that crafting is useless is completely short-sighted & ignorant.

Telling me I said he "needed" to have all classes leveled shows a terrible problem with reading comprehension, please read on:

At this point you will have a good base for your character build, you will have gil accumulated from crafting/gathering (sell stuff to NPCs, in wards, etc. If you don't like crafting, sell your shards/crystals.) and you will have a good amount of base experience.

I bolded the important part for you less educated folk.

[Frein]

Let's see what you can do with level 1-20 crafting:
Repair low level gear
Make low level gear
Gain profit through creation of low level gear
Cross-class crafting skills
The ability to create on-demand materials
Repairs in the field
etc.

None of that matters one bit once your DoW gets past L30.

[Belial]

None of that matters one bit once your DoW gets past L30.

You are just full of lulz.

[Frein]

You are just full of lulz.

I have two crafts at L30. I haven't touched them since 1.19. That's how useful they are.