Will square enix ever make weapon based skills?

[sorahu]

Hi guys so during the downtime on the servers I started wondering, Will we ever see weapon based skills from high level weapons? or end game weapons? example: In ff11 Excalibur gave the wielder the weapon skill: knights of the round. I honestly think It would be awesome to grind for a badass weapon that gave off a distinct skill or did crazy damage, Kinda shows the hardcore from the softcore players my personal opinion of course. So yeah guys comment up, tell me what you think.

P.S. please no bashing just a fun thread

[Eul]

I think SCH's LB3, Angelic Feather, really based by Last Resort Zeta's weapon effect.

[Cherie]

That was something that was really neat about ffxi. You aren't the only person that has mentioned wanting that.
I think it's a great idea too.

I'm sure it's on SE's list of stuff they want to try. I'd imagine it's one of the harder things to balance. Imagine you have a great sword that gives you a strong skill, but then suddenly another boss kill gives you a stronger sword, but it has a gimp ability.
So like, you'd have to decide to take items based on abilities AND their stats, etc.

People already get mad for people trying out weird combos of gear. Just think of all that drama this would cause.

"I'm using my lvl60 sword cause it has a skill I like. It doesn't matter I'm level 80 now. I'm white knight of justice, I will tank as I please" (Tank immediately dies to a lvl80 rabbit because of insufficient vitality given by poor choice of gear)

[Zarzak]

I'm sure it's on SE's list of stuff they want to try.

Honestly I doubt because modern MMOs are plagued by the lemmings who will instantly cry "BUT I PAY MY SUB I SHOULD GET THE SAME SKILL EVERY ONE ELSE HAS HOW DARE YOU LOCK SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEHIND NON SOLOABLE CONTENT SUCH AS RAIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[CGMidlander]

We'd need more (and probably longer lasting) weapons for that to be interesting, I think.

Typically we only have 2 or 3 ilvl-relevant weapons for a job at a given time.
e.g. Eso + Gordian right now
Dreadwyrm + Poetic + Relic during FCoB
High Allagan + Soldiery + Relic during SCoB

[Coatl]

Yes I want it, but have it only change the animation of pre-existing skills. Like a special moogle rod popping out happy moogles whenever you heal someone or something.

[KaitlynOfOz]

Yes I want it, but have it only change the animation of pre-existing skills. Like a special moogle rod popping out happy moogles whenever you heal someone or something.

This i would love, raise has a moogle come down and bonk the dead person on the head to revive. However the downside of such things is that there would be so many extra animations to create and implement. If we can't have things like glamours for our chocobos to look like other mounts because they would have to create all these extra animations, i seriously doubt we would get anything cool like that or even specific to weapons.

[m3eansean]

Dont hold your breath on this one.

Theme park MMO's don't mesh well with type of gearing. As others said, it opens the door far too wide for exclusivity and balancing can become a nightmare (they are adamant about balance when developing this game, to appeal to casual and hardcore players at once).

The closest thing you had was "sanctions" with GC gear. Remember those? Of course not, because they were worthless gear set bonuses and were immediately replaced by better gear 3 levels later.

Game is not setup to accomodate this.

[sorahu]

Dont hold your breath on this one.

Theme park MMO's don't mesh well with type of gearing. As others said, it opens the door far too wide for exclusivity and balancing can become a nightmare (they are adamant about balance when developing this game, to appeal to casual and hardcore players at once).

The closest thing you had was "sanctions" with GC gear. Remember those? Of course not, because they were worthless gear set bonuses and were immediately replaced by better gear 3 levels later.

Game is not setup to accomodate this.

so how is balancing done in ff11? and that game been around since 2000

[LineageRazor]

so how is balancing done in ff11? and that game been around since 2000

How was balancing done in ff11? Poorly. Throughout pretty much every stage of FFXI's life, there were top tier jobs that were preferred for certain kinds of content. If you didn't have one of those jobs leveled, it could be very difficult for you to do that content. You pretty much had to be part of a linkshell that tolerated your unfortunate choice of job. Worse, since nerfs and fixes occurred from time to time that shuffled around the job tiers, even if you did level a top tier job it could lose its place later on and become a low tier job.

As for specialized equipment, FFXI had the Relics. For a long space of time the Relic weapons were hands down the best weapons of their type anyone could get (well, with a few exceptions; the WHM and BLM weapons weren't too useful since they didn't really do much to boost magic). It wasn't much of an exaggeration to say that a player with a Relic weapon were worth two without. So why didn't everyone insist on bringing Relic-owners to do content? Simply because Relic weapons were HORRENDOUSLY difficult to obtain. It simply wasn't feasible to insist that party members all have Relic weapons, because there were only a handful of Relic owners on each server.

Later on, Relics became much easier to obtain, and at that point, all thoughts of balance simply went out the window - particularly in the case of Paladin and Bard. The Paladin and Bard Relics boosted those jobs so ridiculously that any PLD or BRD player who DIDN'T grind out one of these babies might as well not play the job at all. No casual player could play PLD or BRD; the relic grind was easier now, but it was still WAY outside the realm of casual play.

To a lesser degree, the balance issues in FFXI were part of the reason that the crafting system in this game has been so thoroughly castrated. In FFXI, there was plenty of equipment crafted with rare, expensive ingredients that were so useful for the jobs that could use it that players would be turned away if they didn't have them. Things like the Scorpion Harness - DPS gear far superior to anything else that could be worn at it's level. Noble's Tunic, one of the few sources of MP regeneration available to WHMs, and with a 10% Cure Potency stat to boot. The elemental staves, one for each element, each with a huge potency and accuracy bonus for their specific element. Because of items like these, the crafting system in FFXIV will likely never see any utility beyond fluff and glamour, unless SE overlooks how useful the equipment can be (such as the ilvl 110 accessories).