Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[weeble]

vote weebles for president!! he will make separate server choices for all game types. check mark you game styles.

grind/long journey <> no grinds <> caps on quests and missions <> no caps on quests or missions <> no power leveling allowed <> power leveling allowed ...check mark witch ones you want .../load screen to your server type. yaaaaaaay no more 130page threads and we are all happy.

[Charismatic]

Aye, last time I even decided to log on I ended up getting my GLA PL'd up a bit... but only because I couldn't actually get a real party going and then my LS mates offered some power leveling.
Now, if I were staunchly against PL'ing I coulda just turned them down and continued to shout for the two hours I had left to play for the night... but I'm not, so I got free levels for about an hour and then chilled out for a bit before logging off.

[Issac]

I feel like I need to edit the OP to reflect where the discussion went and what the current state of affairs is.

Any suggestions?

[Jynx]

I feel like I need to edit the OP to reflect where the discussion went and what the current state of affairs is.

Any suggestions?

All I know is one of the larger arguements against PL (That I agree with) is that rushing everyone to 50 is asking them to leave.

You hit multiple jobs to 50 in a matter of days

-Do darkhold
-Kill Ifirit

....?

People can contain what takes people playing at a normal pace months to do...in a matter of days.

[NoctisUmbra]

All I know is one of the larger arguements against PL (That I agree with) is that rushing everyone to 50 is asking them to leave.

You hit multiple jobs to 50 in a matter of days

-Do darkhold
-Kill Ifirit

....?

People can contain what takes people playing at a normal pace months to do...in a matter of days.

There's a solid counter to that argument, too.

What's the alternative to rushing? Taking your time and doing what? Shposhae and Toto-Rak?

At the end of the day the fact of the matter is there are more things to do at 50 than before it. Even more things to do at 40 than before it, when you include the strongholds. Add to that that they are adding more and more content for level 50s.

Why are they doing this? The answer is simple. They are putting in content to keep the current playerbase happy, seeing is how a vast majority has a capped class or two, while they simultaneously work on 2.0. They are limited in the amount of content they can provide, and thus have to prioritize high level content vs low level content. My bets are they are working on more low-mid level content alongside high level content for 2.0 while they focus on high level for the current game.

Thus, allowing players to make use of an expedited path to 50 makes sense. It's primarily popular at lower ranks but at higher ranks, especially above 40, regular xp parties are the standard. The reason PL parties are more popular at lower levels goes hand in hand with the reason they allow PL and focus on high level content: there are not a lot of players right now that have no capped classes.

Were there more new players coming in then PL wouldn't be an issue since people would find regular xp parties. Most of the arguments I see against the existence of PL stems from this very lack of xp parties. Other arguments are purely opinionated.

To each his own.

[Jynx]

[COLOR="navy"]What's the alternative to rushing? Taking your time and doing what?

Leveling, and perhaps that rank 50 content can act like a goal for people to reach for. I agree there is little content prior to 50 but powerleveling isn't the answer.

If SE is that adamant about only designing rank 50 content why not just let people be rank 50? I don't get the point of the leveling system if it's going to be 100% pointless until at least 2.0 and perhaps even beyond that.

The "Grind" has a purpose of killing time, and keeping players in the game for a longer period of time. If SE wants to run around this all the power to them, I'm just saying don't expect alot of those people who rushed to 50 to bother sticking around when they finished all of the 2 (3 in the future) things they can do as Level 50 characters.

[AmyRae]

The "Grind" has a purpose of killing time, and keeping players in the game for a longer period of time.

The scheduled rewards of a grind aren't as addicting as the random rewards of endgame content. It actually makes more sense to short-circuit the grind so people can get to the slot machine that is endgame gear production. That is, if the goal is to keep people around longer. The more level 50 classes you have, the more gear you want to collect.

[NoctisUmbra]

Leveling, and perhaps that rank 50 content can act like a goal for people to reach for. I agree there is little content prior to 50 but powerleveling isn't the answer.

It is an answer. There is choice in the matter. People who want to xp party can xp party. I've done maybe 2 PL parties. Maybe 3. Done tons of xp parties since 1.19 hit though. Was in one just last night. I understand the existence of PL dilutes the presence of xp parties, at lower ranks more so, but it is not as severe as some people make it out to be.

If SE is that adamant about only designing rank 50 content why not just let people be rank 50? I don't get the point of the leveling system if it's going to be 100% pointless until at least 2.0 and perhaps even beyond that.

You just counted leveling as being content. Removing that is removing content from a content-hungry game. Fact is some people enjoy taking their time through their levels. Some find they learn their classes better that way. This isn't true for everyone though.

The key point is choice.

The "Grind" has a purpose of killing time, and keeping players in the game for a longer period of time. If SE wants to run around this all the power to them, I'm just saying don't expect alot of those people who rushed to 50 to bother sticking around when they finished all of the 2 (3 in the future) things they can do as Level 50 characters.

Again it's down to choice. The grind has the purpose of killing time? It's fluff. Some people like the fluff, some don't care for it. With each 50 you gain, you care less and less about taking your time on the next one. Contrary to your argument, there are people who won't stick around if more than half the content is at level 50 and there's little to do but grind and grind and grind until you get to 50.

People who wanna level can level. People who want to play mainly for content at 50 can ask to be PL'ed.

Again, to each his own.

[Jynx]

I guess I just don't think people should be able to "Choose" to skip a large part of the game. Might as well give people a choice to have all the weapons and armour at their fingertips before actually doing anything as well.

You know..."To each his own"