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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You giving your view i understand everyone but the powerlevel still have to go. Top of that i don't even view your reason anymore viion listening to you here for months made me see the type of person you are.

    Sorry if you dislike it but yoshi-p is wrong powerlevel should not be allow too this type it's way too much.

    What yoshi-p is going back on his word on it should take players 3 and half month to level? If he goes back on his word on this what else can he do? Sorry yoshi-p have to fix this issue no one should level this quick.
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You giving your view i understand everyone but the powerlevel still have to go. Top of that i don't even view your reason anymore viion listening to you here for months made me see the type of person you are.

    Sorry if you dislike it but yoshi-p is wrong powerlevel should not be allow too this type it's way too much.

    What yoshi-p is going back on his word on it should take players 3 and half month to level? If he goes back on his word on this what else can he do? Sorry yoshi-p have to fix this issue no one should level this quick.
    Leveling to 50 may be quick, but what isn't quick is materia gear, especially extremely rare double (triple?) fittings. It's not as though you weren't left with a new grinding challenge to distinguish yourself with (if that's so important to you).
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
    Ok all i'm saying is the powerlevel is broken and it should be fix no one should be gaining that amount of exp. They should fix it and add other way to gain level that does not = someone afk and someone just AOE. That is what we asking for so maybe then people would go back to partying and we can enjoy the game together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
    I do. I mean, I don't know you in person. But we're so similar that the core banned me because they thought I was you. Remember that? Hah. I think you are a great person with a lot of talent. I think you are a good person overall.

    But that's not gonna stop me from saying you're wrong. But remember, that's an opinion, and I'm voicing it, just as you are.
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  5. #645
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Ok all i'm saying is the powerlevel is broken and it should be fix no one should be gaining that amount of exp. They should fix it and add other way to gain level that does not = someone afk and someone just AOE. That is what we asking for so maybe then people would go back to partying and we can enjoy the game together.
    So now its finally coming together, it is a more deeper route. Your voice of opinion gives of that the whole thing should be removed and we should go back to 1.18. But we shouldnt do that, and you said it yourself there should be choices still (See bold quote)

    What I disaggreed with from the start id the fact you can claim multiple mobs and you get EXP for everyone of them, rather than just the one you are fighting. Maybe we should remove the main PL aspect (can have a 50 in the PT) and implment the penalities, but make mobs killing, be easier for those who wish to solo/duo because right now it is extremely difficult and those players have 2 options: 1. Get a PT or 2. Get a power leveller/friend. One of them requires lots of people and waiting around and time, the other requires a tell to a friend and off you go. Its more down to what is easily accessable?

    So I come back to the whole you thinking you know what type of person I am. I am not to bothered about the PL System, what I am bothered about is how long it takes to hit 50. 3months is not good, for a casual player that can be almost a year if they play 4 times less than the dedicated. No casual should be playing a game and know it can take up to a year to enjoy any content.

    I much prefer to have PLing than be forced to chore out all year long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I do. I think you are a great person with a lot of talent. I think you are a good person overall.

    But that's not gonna stop me from saying you're wrong. But remember, that's an opinion, and I'm voicing it, just as you are.
    Thank you,

    You can disagree with me 24/7, and I may disagree with you disagreeing with me! lol but it causes a debate and provides the devs useful information.

    Maybe people dont see it like that, the dev team and yoshi will have a clearer view if more people are debating and expressing their opinion and debates, rather than fighting each other.
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    Last edited by viion; 10-10-2011 at 01:28 AM.

  6. #646
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    So now its finally coming together, it is a more deeper route. Your voice of opinion gives of that the whole thing should be removed and we should go back to 1.18. But we shouldnt do that, and you said it yourself there should be choices still (See bold quote)

    What I disaggreed with from the start id the fact you can claim multiple mobs and you get EXP for everyone of them, rather than just the one you are fighting. Maybe we should remove the main PL aspect (can have a 50 in the PT) and implment the penalities, but make mobs killing, be easier for those who wish to solo/duo because right now it is extremely difficult and those players have 2 options: 1. Get a PT or 2. Get a power leveller/friend. One of them requires lots of people and waiting around and time, the other requires a tell to a friend and off you go. Its more down to what is easily accessable?



    Thank you,

    You can disagree with me 24/7, and I may disagree with you disagreeing with me! lol but it causes a debate and provides the devs useful information.

    Maybe people dont see it like that, the dev team and yoshi will have a clearer view if more people are debating and expressing their opinion and debates, rather than fighting each other.
    Ya delete it and add something else that make players play not AFK /follow and watch a movie come back oh look 20 levels.
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  7. #647
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Ya delete it and add something else that make players play not AFK /follow and watch a movie come back oh look 20 levels.
    Not exactly providing a solution there, and people have been doing that since day 1. PLing did not invent that. Forget about Bots and how this game is a botted goldmine?

    Also not to mention people might not be "AFKing". For example I recently dualboxed to test Spiritbind, I left my main char standing there and focused on the killer. Does not mean I was AFK even though 1 char was doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Not exactly providing a solution there, and people have been doing that since day 1. PLing did not invent that. Forget about Bots and how this game is a botted goldmine?

    Also not to mention people might not be "AFKing". For example I recently dualboxed to test Spiritbind, I left my main char standing there and focused on the killer. Does not mean I was AFK even though 1 char was doing nothing.
    So having people sitting there or /follow is not AFK? i get your view and i understand you but this game should make you want to party with others not just powerlevel eachother to max.
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  9. #649
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    So having people sitting there or /follow is not AFK? i get your view and i understand you but this game should make you want to party with others not just powerlevel eachother to max.
    Did you read my post?

    What if someone is duaboxing and 1 of their chars is on follow while they focus on the other char?

    Thats not AFKing. You're being very judgmental to a system that you cant provide facts about, because it is not fact that everyone is AFKing.

    Some might be AFKing but their is always someone having to do all the work.

    Partying is good, but sometimes not so good, with people leaving, people not being good, taking forever to setup at times. Its nice to just have a cushion of just PL.

    Or what if you have zero interest in getting 8 people together and would rather just ... have your class levelled up quickly?

    Provide solutions, and reasoning, not 2 lines of being upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Leveling through the slow version of raptor murder simulator doesn't teach the majority how to play any better than the fast version at all.
    It does actually.

    Standing around doing nothing = You're not learning how to utilize your skills and when nor do you know the timing of dodging TP moves (which is generally the same for all mobs both vertical/conal and horizontal/AoE.)

    Actually fighting = Learning your class and class implementation in a party situation.
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